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it seems that only my country (iran) having nukes is bad.
I think Israel having Nukes is worse than Iran having Nukes but really any country having nukes is "bad"
Wrong Abrahamic DLC is all it takes.
jewish isis already has, so....
The funny part is they're all wrong about reality.
That some really strong belief* you have there. Lmao
Nope just obvious conclusion drawn from lifelong study.
Lmao no.
Apples & oranges honestly. Best would be no one resorts to that strategy. 2nd best is extreme regimes - especially vindicative and religious ones - don’t have such weapons.
Honestly, I trust Iran to behave like a rational actor a whole lot more than I trust Trump. Yes, they're run by religious nutjobs, but they have been proven to show some restraint on international policy.
Iran as a nation has been around for millenia, I think they have their shit together more than some fresh and not so fresh upstart colonies, like Israel and the USA.
Rational? While they push for shit like virgins in the afterworld ? No thanks. But you are right that suddenly USA isn’t rational anymore either. It seems harder to deprive someone than to simply prevent access to.
Iran has uranium and ballistic missiles. They could have made and deployed dirty bombs that would make Jerusalem uninhabitable for at least generations. But have not.
"virgins in the afterworld" as an irainian the first time I heard that was from a stand up comedy from Robin Williams.
don't believe the bullshit.
Dude, don’t act as if your government was anything short of extremism. Setting aside the people obviously. It is absolutely a theocracy which is fucking insane in 2025. Just look at it from the sky and tell me how wonderful it is the best country in the world. That’s no utopia…
sigh. Do you know what "rational actor" means?
Well, I should think so but entertain me…
It means they have motivations, and seek those motivations in a rational way.
Meaning they are religiously motivated, but that doesn't mean they behave in unpredictable ways. They're not going to launch a nuke just because they feel like it. On the contrary, they have shown a great deal of restraint.
I mean I am sure usa germany and japan are the most peace loving countries in the last century. unlike iran that literally didnt start a war in that last 200 years.
sorry.
from my perspective my country needs nukes the most of the "Candidates"
Actually this is a good point. 2 of them actually grew out of their initial ways. Admittedly one regressed.
But neither Germany nor Japan are fucking theocracies beheading gays or whatever.
So you gouvernement can suck dicks and hopefully gets replaced by a secural one.
You made abortions illegal, you have the right to point fingers?
I what?
So not only you keep on steering away from the point but you are hilariously wrong on all your assumptions.
My county of residence and origin is absolutely not making abortions illegal.
Also I, as a citizen, am not making anything illegal. I’m taking great care to separate country, government and citizen which you should really consider doing as well.
Governments makes things illegal. An often times a specific branch there of. Generally not citizens themselves with very odd exceptions like parts of Switzerland and such.
I’m having an opinion which I’m very much entitled to in a fucking democracy. Which might be an alien concept to you I gather.
if palestine shown anything is that the collective west didnt grow out of any of its bad habits.
whole of west got behind destroying syria so that "assad" should go because he was bad. because assa "bombed hostpitals and you wouldnt do that even to kill Al-Qaeda terrorists"
now he is replaced with Al-Qaeda commander and he gets welcomed in france and usa. and jewish isis gets to bomb every hospital and university and be the animal that they are because "khamas".
if you think western regime goals is "saving gays" or something like that you are retarded.
if Libya Syria Afghanistan and of course the best of them saudi arabia was not enough to show you what is the most important foreign goals of eu and usa, I can't help you.
The hell you bring Palestine into how a theocracy should be prevented to get access to nuclear dissuasion? Stay on the topic please… They are a shit regime that must not have access to more than what they have and even that is too much.
I am trying to show you some points.
all those you call secular governments in west like uk usa france germany and so on, did and continue to do invasions war crimes and atrocity world over.
so I don't get your obsession with non-secular countries, and thinking that only non-secular countries are capable of good.
whatever my government does , doesn't even get near to level of what Israel did for the last 80 years and especially last two years.
and all those "secular" countries supported israel completely with actions (words are useless)
israel is a secular country? if so that is news to their government which read from their religious texts when they do an genocide and war crimes. if you have not head that it is because you are ignorant. and those secular regimes is west are completely fine with them doing it.
so I don't think west care about religious genocide if their buddies commit it.
and my country needs the nukes to survive as history has shown western regimes treaties are not worth the paper that it is written on. if jcpoa didnt show that nothing will. they bombed who they want and kill whoever they want.
be better informed and don't be fox news level of ignorant.
Again you are steering away from the discussion ; focus please. 2 wrongs never did a right.
Whatever you try to weasel about comparing other countries is absolutely irrelevant when discussing the likelihood of Iran having access to nuclear weapons being a good thing.
The rest of the world being filled to the brim with assholes is irrelevant. My county is irrelevant.
We are just looking at a shit gouvernement in Iran in a fucking vacuum.
And the possibility that THEY get nuclear weapons being is atrocious in itself.
I support Iran getting the bomb. In the regional context, it would be an overwhelmingly positive thing. History suggests it would be a great mellowing influence on the whole region. The region is unstable right now because there's one nuclear power in the region without any counterbalancing nuclear power to hold them in check. Israel, a democratic theocracy, now acts with impunity against every country in the region. The US acted the same way prior to 1948, threatening to use its nukes in ways and scenarios we would now consider unthinkable.
Every single time a nation has been near the bomb, they have been portrayed as a bunch of crazy nutjobs that are going to blow up the world. Russian and China were both portrayed as fanatical Communists willing to die for the cause. India and Pakistan were religious fanatics that were going to blow up the world. North Korea was a dictatorship ruled by a madman that was going to level Seoul. Every single time a non-Western nation is close to getting the bomb, that nation has historically been portrayed as being lead by world-risking madmen or fanatics of one sort or another. The narrative is always that only Western countries can responsibly hold the bomb, and all those other potential nuclear powers will handle the power poorer that the enlightened Western nations have.
And yet, time and time again, that doesn't happen. It turns out that rulers, whether elected or dictatorial, tend to care most about maintaining their own power. And even if they think they can miraculously personally survive a nuclear war; no one wants to rule over a radiation-blasted hellscape. And no one wants to see their homeland nuked, even an evil tyrant.
If Tehran gets the bomb, it won't immediately use it on Israel. Why? Because the Iranians don't want to be vaporized. Israel has its own nuclear arsenal, including a submarine-based second strike capability. If they nuke Israel, every major city in Iran is going up in a mushroom cloud.
It turns out, MAD actually works. And while I would prefer that no nation have nukes, the only thing more unstable than two nuclear-armed rivals is when there are two rivals and only one of them has nukes.
This is why I want Iran to have the bomb. Do I think Iran is lead by particularly good people? Not at all. But I trust the Ayatollahs with the bomb about as much as I trust the Israelis with the bomb. And Iran getting nukes would greatly stabilize a region that has been so destabilized by having only a single unbalanced nuclear power.
way less than jewish isis having nuke and acting like barbaric god chosen people.
way less than germany or japan. if you think they are reformed... then sure america was reformed after it killed all the native americans.
go watch any real politikcs about iran and nuke like john mershaimer. maybe you learn some history.
I judge conutries and regimes by their acts. in international arena iran behaved way better than all the other countires you named.