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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Shit. This is honestly the thing that's going to make me cancel Spotify.

What's the alternative? Spotify has almost all the music I want to hear. I don't think the competitors do, and there's no easy way to check.

Any new service I sign up for will need to have my favorite obscure band of all time: Splashdown. I don't own a computer, so piracy is not an option. Where do I go?

[–] Mobile@leminal.space 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've been using Tidal for over a year now. I've been digging the FLAC streams. $17 a month for my family plan. Up to 6, including yourself. And yes, Splashdown is on Tidal.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's most likely what I'll switch to then. Thanks for checking.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 6 months ago

Another +1 for Tidal here. It's been great for me. Especially with a good DAC and good headphones to take advantage of the lossless stuff, especially the high res lossless stuff

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can the family members be outside a single house? Or it does weird stuff like Netflix?

[–] Mobile@leminal.space 2 points 6 months ago

Uhh I haven't tried password sharing with Tidal.

They would need to have their own Tidal accounts. You would then add their Tidal account to your family plan. Once done, they can use the service on their own personal devices by logging with their accounts.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Qobuz is what i have my eyes on.

Only reason I haven't switched over yet is me and my friends share a lot of music together so I've been working on a personal discord bot to share the different links, and I've yet to get it working 100% yet (it failed when testing with a rick Astley album of all things)

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

FWIW Apple Music has two Splashdown albums. Not really recommended per se, but it’s the service I have access to and was able to look it up for you. I think they have a 1 month free trial available?

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for checking. I don't have any Apple products, but it's good to know it's an option.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I do believe there is an android app if you get desperate 🤪

[–] Quexotic 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm a huge splashdown fan. I was able to mail CVB records back in the day and get all manner of stuff.

Wonderful publisher to send me free content. Love those guys.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I ordered the CDs they had for sale, and they sent me a copy of Blueshift. They were never allowed to formally release it, but they were allowed to give it away!

Apparently they recorded two new songs a couple years ago. I haven't listened to them yet. I'm saving it.

[–] Quexotic 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what they said to me too that they weren't allowed to sell it some sort of weird thing with the record deal of some contractual bullshit that went wrong. I really would have been willing to pay money for it but it's really too bad things went South there.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if I recall correctly their label screwed them over and just locked up their album. They wouldn't release it, and the band couldn't do anything with it. It's why they broke up.

The worst part is that Blueshift is a masterpiece. More than twenty years later, it's still one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

After they broke up Kasson Crooker went on to be one of the people responsible for Guitar Hero, so that's kind of cool I guess.

[–] Quexotic 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you! I didn't know that about guitar hero.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can pirate on your phone just fine, there's libretorrent on f-droid, new pipe can stream and download stuff from youtube and youtube music, you can also download from deezer on telegram with @linemusicbot and @deezload2bot.

(Rimusic and kreator also exist but are buggy)

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Uh huh. And don't I need a PC to root my phone to install f-droid?

[–] allan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Not yet, at least

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Youtube Music has two different bands called Splashdown, and each has two albums.

It's definitely a step in the wrong direction as far as not supporting giant evil corporations, but the music is there.

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not having a computer doesn't mean you can't pirate, you could easily rent a seedbox for like €5/month (eg. https://ultra.cc/) and control torrents on it from your phone eg with transdrone or other apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.transdroid.lite

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You can just torrent shit on your phone if you have Android lol

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but there's a lot of downsides to that tbh, certainly if you want to use any decent private trackers I wouldn't recommend it.

Many of the torrent clients easily available in the play store are spammy/ad-filled or blocked by private trackers, and you're never gonna seed anything meaningfully from your phone due to it going to sleep and using 4G etc. so if you're trying to build up a ratio you're gonna struggle.

For anyone who wants to be able to access all of the music in the world, in high quality (not just whatever popular releases end up on public trackers), I would say it's very much worth it to use a cheap seedbox - seeding 24/7 from a fast connection makes it much easier to build up a ratio and if you just seed everything indefinitely, before you know it you'll have a huge buffer and be able to download whatever you want without thinking.

For example the private tracker I use for most of my music (RED) has everything ever released by the obscure band mentioned by OP ("Splashdown") whereas you probably can't find much of that on public trackers.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

If you need to set up a seedbox and shit, might as well pay for streaming because that's more convenient. I thought you could still get music off public trackers like when I still pirated it. I got all my Eminem albums off thepiratebay lmao

I do sometimes use a private tracker for movies and shows, as those aren't nearly as readily available as music (where you can usually get everything off one service), but for that I use my desktop which runs 24/7 and usually only get Freeleech torrents and let them seed for a few months (or over a year in some cases). I see little value in building ratio by autograbbing torrents nobody wants, that everyone's only downloading to seed and build ratio.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

All private music trackers ban mobile torrent clients.