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[–] moakley@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Shit. This is honestly the thing that's going to make me cancel Spotify.

What's the alternative? Spotify has almost all the music I want to hear. I don't think the competitors do, and there's no easy way to check.

Any new service I sign up for will need to have my favorite obscure band of all time: Splashdown. I don't own a computer, so piracy is not an option. Where do I go?

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Purchase the music. Spend what you'd spend on a monthly fee to buy the albums. Then you have them regardless of what the service chooses to do in the future.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I own the CDs. I can't stream CDs to my sound bar or play them on my phone.

[–] Wav_function@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

If you have a PC you can rip them and use a service that lets you stream to a phone like Plex

Or if no PC something like YouTube music let's you upload a collection and stream that to devices

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I already said I don't have a computer. I'm looking for a streaming service where I pay and then I can stream music.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Apparently external CD players do exist that are compatible with phones. So you could just connect that to your phone and copy the songs to your phone. Could probably get an old laptop with one built in for the same price though.

[–] Mobile@leminal.space 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been using Tidal for over a year now. I've been digging the FLAC streams. $17 a month for my family plan. Up to 6, including yourself. And yes, Splashdown is on Tidal.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's most likely what I'll switch to then. Thanks for checking.

[–] noxypaws@pawb.social 4 points 20 hours ago

Another +1 for Tidal here. It's been great for me. Especially with a good DAC and good headphones to take advantage of the lossless stuff, especially the high res lossless stuff

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Can the family members be outside a single house? Or it does weird stuff like Netflix?

[–] Mobile@leminal.space 2 points 22 hours ago

Uhh I haven't tried password sharing with Tidal.

They would need to have their own Tidal accounts. You would then add their Tidal account to your family plan. Once done, they can use the service on their own personal devices by logging with their accounts.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 21 hours ago

Youtube Music has two different bands called Splashdown, and each has two albums.

It's definitely a step in the wrong direction as far as not supporting giant evil corporations, but the music is there.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Qobuz is what i have my eyes on.

Only reason I haven't switched over yet is me and my friends share a lot of music together so I've been working on a personal discord bot to share the different links, and I've yet to get it working 100% yet (it failed when testing with a rick Astley album of all things)

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

FWIW Apple Music has two Splashdown albums. Not really recommended per se, but it’s the service I have access to and was able to look it up for you. I think they have a 1 month free trial available?

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for checking. I don't have any Apple products, but it's good to know it's an option.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

I do believe there is an android app if you get desperate 🤪

[–] Quexotic 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm a huge splashdown fan. I was able to mail CVB records back in the day and get all manner of stuff.

Wonderful publisher to send me free content. Love those guys.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I ordered the CDs they had for sale, and they sent me a copy of Blueshift. They were never allowed to formally release it, but they were allowed to give it away!

Apparently they recorded two new songs a couple years ago. I haven't listened to them yet. I'm saving it.

[–] Quexotic 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what they said to me too that they weren't allowed to sell it some sort of weird thing with the record deal of some contractual bullshit that went wrong. I really would have been willing to pay money for it but it's really too bad things went South there.

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, if I recall correctly their label screwed them over and just locked up their album. They wouldn't release it, and the band couldn't do anything with it. It's why they broke up.

The worst part is that Blueshift is a masterpiece. More than twenty years later, it's still one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

After they broke up Kasson Crooker went on to be one of the people responsible for Guitar Hero, so that's kind of cool I guess.

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not having a computer doesn't mean you can't pirate, you could easily rent a seedbox for like €5/month (eg. https://ultra.cc/) and control torrents on it from your phone eg with transdrone or other apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.transdroid.lite

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

You can just torrent shit on your phone if you have Android lol

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago

All private music trackers ban mobile torrent clients.

[–] beveradb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah but there's a lot of downsides to that tbh, certainly if you want to use any decent private trackers I wouldn't recommend it.

Many of the torrent clients easily available in the play store are spammy/ad-filled or blocked by private trackers, and you're never gonna seed anything meaningfully from your phone due to it going to sleep and using 4G etc. so if you're trying to build up a ratio you're gonna struggle.

For anyone who wants to be able to access all of the music in the world, in high quality (not just whatever popular releases end up on public trackers), I would say it's very much worth it to use a cheap seedbox - seeding 24/7 from a fast connection makes it much easier to build up a ratio and if you just seed everything indefinitely, before you know it you'll have a huge buffer and be able to download whatever you want without thinking.

For example the private tracker I use for most of my music (RED) has everything ever released by the obscure band mentioned by OP ("Splashdown") whereas you probably can't find much of that on public trackers.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 minutes ago

If you need to set up a seedbox and shit, might as well pay for streaming because that's more convenient. I thought you could still get music off public trackers like when I still pirated it. I got all my Eminem albums off thepiratebay lmao

I do sometimes use a private tracker for movies and shows, as those aren't nearly as readily available as music (where you can usually get everything off one service), but for that I use my desktop which runs 24/7 and usually only get Freeleech torrents and let them seed for a few months (or over a year in some cases). I see little value in building ratio by autograbbing torrents nobody wants, that everyone's only downloading to seed and build ratio.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can pirate on your phone just fine, there's libretorrent on f-droid, new pipe can stream and download stuff from youtube and youtube music, you can also download from deezer on telegram with @linemusicbot and @deezload2bot.

(Rimusic and kreator also exist but are buggy)

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Uh huh. And don't I need a PC to root my phone to install f-droid?

[–] allan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 22 hours ago

Not yet, at least