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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.org/post/1872634

So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Android is different because there are no alternatives to cellphones except Apple. On the web, there are other ways to share video. So Google can maybe lock YouTube down, but it can't lock you down.

Many of us use 3rd party browsers a stop-gap measure. We'd like to leave the platform entirely, but we are still interested in some of the content there, so we're OK with the cat-and-mouse game for now, knowing that if Google goes hardcore blocking mode that we will walk away and be better human beings for it.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You got Linux phones but those are rough to be nice about it.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They are glorified toys to be blunt. Cellphones just require too much proprietary tech and licensing. Shits never goanna be viable as anything more than a hobbyist toy.

If you already use your phone as nothing more then a toy then it's a easy switch. But most people don't.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

Not to mention, carriers can dictate who can get connected. Australia already banned any IMEIs not "approved" by them, not even for emergency calls.

In contrast, all that a computer would need is working wifi, and for now at least, we still control wifi hardware and the ISP can't dictate what devices you connect. (unless they start forcing their "gateways" Modem/Router devices)

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

I use mine as a toy and as a device for making phone calls

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

What makes it the "best" over Ubuntu Touch, etc.?

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

i heard there is something called murena

https://murena.com/products/smartphones/

no idea how these are, but i have previous generation fairphone and it has been decent, even if that one has android. I'll propably get one at some point since i dont want to use android. the price of fairphones is a bit high, but that is how it is when you dont use slavery to produce them.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Technically you don't need a smartphone. A tethered mobile device would do. For just cellular calls, there are dumbphones. That Youtube does or doesn't work doesn't concern me. They always ask to login on VPN which is always on for me. Thanks, just no.