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[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

People greatly overestimate how much we, as a species, care about atrocities. The reality is that once they're over, we move on. Actually even when they're going on, the overwhelming majority of people don't and won't care because it doesn't affect them. This will never change, that's just the way we are.

Think about it, how many of you still care about how ISIS genocided the Yazidis or that Azerbaijan ethnic cleansed Armenians out of Artsakh? The answer is probably none. Even if you cared at the time, now you don't care. Maybe that's too far away, have you ever thought about how the land you live on right now was built on bloodshed? Probably not, but even if you did, you think of the violence as something in the distant past. The violence becomes an interesting historical fact rather than a persisting injustice.

This will be the case here too. After what is happening in Gaza right now comes to end, people will move on, and with time people will quickly accept the new reality and treat what happened as just another chapter in history. The kid in this comic strip will grow up to think that it's cool that he went on a vacation with his family to a place that had such a wild historical event take place.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think America very much got conditioned out of being the “world police”. Bad guy doing bad things 30,000 miles away? What are we supposed to do it? Dive into our military industrial complex and give a heavy tax bill to fix it?

The thing is, as someone in a privileged position, I’d argue the answer is yes. But I have to accept that lots of people say no, both for financial reasons, and for fears of having our military everpresent everywhere, even if they’re trying to do good.

But while spending might not make sense…spending to CREATE a genocide is a far more horrible thing that goes against everything I stand for.

Part of me wants to invest the US army into attacking Israel for its human rights abuses. I’m much more settled for a passive approach where the US at least stops helping them.

Of course, then the issue gets murkier when circumstances make the claim that most of these conflicts are in some way caused by actions of the big 3 empires.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

The problem with the concept of a world police is that it's a political thing, not a law and order thing.

A political world police is just as good as a political regular police would be.

Imagine, police would just do whatever the majority are saying instead of, you know, using evidence to get someone before a judge and continue to use evidence to get someone convicted or alternatlively let people go free where there's no evidence.

ICE is pretty much what a political police looks like, and the US as the world police acted just like that.

Remember 911? Attacking Afghanistan might have maybe been somewhat justified, but attacking Irak, mostly because US troops were already there was totally not.

The "world police" was certainly not a successful thing and certainly not in regards to world peace. More often than not it was used to score points for the next national election.

[–] germanichwurst@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nobody will move on until we purge the genociders out of society

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But you're wrong. The world has already moved on past Armenian genocide even though Turkey and the vast majority of Turks still deny the genocide, and some are even openly proud of it. The world has moved on from the Holocaust even though there are still soooo many genocide deniers everywhere. The world has moved on from the Yazidi genocide even though that has happened only 10 years ago and a lot of perpetrators are still running around today. Even now with what's going on in Ukraine, Myanmar, Tibet, Armenia, Kurdistan, Sudan, Yemen, people just move on with their lives. What makes you think that they don't or that this will be different?

[–] germanichwurst@feddit.org 1 points 6 months ago

Well maybe it's time to take the matter in our own hands and purge the genociders such as yourself out of society