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MMW: The moment Trump dies, MAGA will collapse in on itself (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Gorilladrums@lemmy.world to c/MarkMyWords@lemmy.world

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This is something that I have been saying for a long time now. I, from the very bottom of my heart, believe that the moment Trump dies, MAGA will die with him.

Why? It's simple really, movements generally need to be practical, coherent, and flexible to last a long time. MAGA has none of these traits. MAGA currently stands for nothing. As a movement it has no values, no platform, no morals, and no leadership outside of Trump. Everything in the movement starts and stops with Trump. Whatever he says goes no matter how insane, nonsensical, or contradictory. Trump is the movement.

It wasn't always this way, back during his first term, MAGA did have some ideological diversity that forced the movement to have internal discourse which kept it somewhat balanced. There were evangelists, libertarians, fiscal conservatives, moderate Republicans, and so on. However, Trump has purged them all. In fact, he has purged everything and anything capable of independent thought leaving only blind loyalists and slimy opportunists.

Without Trump acting as their de facto prophet, these yes men will immediately leech on to the first self proclaimed successor they see. MAGA will fracture and split, and the different factions will spend most of their time fighting each other. This will lead MAGA to become ineffective, and because of this, it will fade into irrelevancy with time.

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[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is a huge apparatus of rich mega-assholes supporting him, they are not going to disappear or give up control. The states will remain gerrymandered beyond recognition, the next election (if there is one) will be suspect as hell, the supreme court will remain fucked, and the voting base will elect whatever scum of the earth is put in front of them to "own the libs, for trump!"

[–] jonne 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, MAGA is just an expression of the things set in motion by the Powell Memo (in some ways Trump hijacked that infrastructure for his own profit instead of sharing amongst the other sponsors of that plot). All those conservatives in the courts and in safe red districts will just stay where they are and spin up some new 'movement' like the Tea Party before it.

Conservatives can easily be convinced to believe the opposite of what they believed just a few years ago, look at how they turned in George W Bush basically effortlessly.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Sure, all their interests align, except for who gets to be the man on the throne. None of the oligarchs wanted Trump to be the leader, he is way too volatile, stupid and unpredictable, and they did try to get rid of him. The problem for them is that he has their voterbase locked down on account of the personal cult. All of the candidates they have tried running against him failed, because the cultists naturally just want their cult leader.

The interesting thing is how that cultist voterbase will react when he dies. There will be lots of Republican candidates attempting to gain the throne. A frightening prospect is that the cultists will transfer their allegiance to Donny Jr., simply because he is the son of their cult leader. But it is not a given. And that infighting may well break the complete stranglehold they have over the US. But again, that is far from given, because as you said, it is powerful vested interests we are talking about here, who basically all want the same thing (unlimited grifting for oligarchs, based on a layer of bigotry).

So there is always the chance that they will once more settle with whomever the cultists adheres themselves to, for the greater good of grifting, just like they eventually did with Trump.