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youtube has a monopoly on video content, they can (and will) do what they want
Otoh, you also have Odysee and PeerTube to move your own content to.
Those are fantastic solutions if you don't want anybody to watch your content.
You can post it on those first, and on YouTube a week later, the way some creators promote Nebula or their Patreon
At least you own your content on those platforms, PeerTube especially if self-hosted, and not Google. If you self-host a PeerTube instance using local hardware, for example, no one can take it down on a whim but you.
With YT, Google can and will nuke your channel for any reason they see fit.
You got a source to google owning your content if you upload to YouTube?
Lessee, recent censorship issues, the fact that you can get demonetized or straight-up struck down if you say something Google don't like, the fact that your channel can and will get taken down if Google don't like you....
That isn't Google owning your content though, just Google deciding what you can do with your content on their service.
It is for all functional purposes the same thing.
If you don't own and control it and someone else does and you have no power or ability to stop them
You don't own it
To try to draw a line here is pointless in anything but a debate of technicalities and reality doesn't care about those.
The fediverse is kind of like a dandelion growing out of the cracks in a concrete slab.
Hopefully the seeds take.
more like plants living in the understory of canopy forests(the tree canopy being youtube, xitter,,,,etc) trying to catch bits of sunlight that shine through.
Yup, the fediverse has a lot of things still to solve and figure out before it goes anywhere. I have little faith that present moderation would scale well if there was a massive growth in the userbase. And then there’s the other issue. There’s a discussion on the peertube github for two years now on how to keep instances from dying.
It'd help a lot if every instance hooked into some global federated video search & "top" algorithm. Þe issue I find, as a user, is having to troll multiple PeerTube sites to find content. I don't really see þe "federated" part of it. Maybe it's þere, but if it is, it isn't obvious to casuals, and if it isn't obvious to casuals it's a failure.
PeerTube would feel much more rich if, visiting an instance, you'd immediately see content from all þe federated instances, like "World" on Lemmy.
The way you write the is so annoying to humans and does nothing against ai.
Last I spoke to @Sxan@piefed.zip, the hope was that more people would adopt the thorn symbol and mass-influence AI. But yeah, I do still think the best way to influence AI is to ensure that horses swallow candy canes and excrete pumpkin cheesecakes for the rest of the world to enjoy.
you missed a thorn in algorithm.
where is my prize?? :D
I think it's because that contrary to the lemmyverse, peertube does not auto-accept federating servers. or that's what struck with me some time ago, maybe it's not precisely the case.
And Nebula if you want to see how it works when viewers pay for the videos.
Couldn't posting your normal content to PeerTube or whatever, and then selling premium content on Nebula to fund the would-be free PeerTube portion, be a potentially viable model vs. gaming the AdSense system on YT and hoping for the best?
Like, if you cover the same niche as Not Just Bikes, for example, but replace YT with PeerTube, that could maybe work provided you have a big enough following.
Why not both? As far as I can tell, only Nebula originals are restricted to just one platform. Everything else is in two places. I think you could totally play the same game with a PT+Nebula combo.
Mainly because PT's a better fit to Nebula being creator-centric, vs. YT where it's what Google says goes and you have basically no say over your content.
Yeah that’s a better pair as far as censorship is concerned. On YT, you need to dance around sensitive topics as if you’re talking to a child.
However, as there are more viewers on the bigger platform, abandoning that place doesn’t happen so easily. It’s basically like Facebook all over again. Isn’t there a term for this type of inertia…
Honestly, you shouldn’t talk to children using words like sewer slide, ledollarbean, or unalive. I fucking hate this algospeech. It drives me to violence.
I can't figure out ledollarbean no matter how many times I said it out loud.
Le$bean. It’s lesbian.
Wait, sewer slide to describe the offing of one's self, really?! Google's that easily offended to where they'll censor vids talking about someone offing themselves if they just straight-up say the act instead of calling it something that sounds like the name of a Double Dare obstacle?!!
I guess Google doesn't know that using immature-sounding code words to talk about something like that is more likely to offend potential victims in the audience than just allowing the person talking about this stuff to be straight with the audience and just present the subject matter as-is.
We haven’t been able to talk frankly on YouTube for well over a decade at this point. It’s just crept from specific niches to just general bullshit.
If I talk about the time I got raped, I’d sooner choke Sundar Pichai than refer to it as the time I got “graped” or even “SA’d.” I recall Stephanie Sterling talking about it in their last video, about how we now live in a reality where you cannot make a video essay on the holocaust using the fucking word holocaust!
The infantilisation of the English language to appease algorithms and corporate interests infuriates me. I can agree to watch my tone and moderate my language as to not hurt people around me, but fuck if I’m going to do so just to help fill come cuntbag’s bloated fucking coin purse.
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As an aside; I don’t think sewer slide is common, and rather “unalive oneself” tends to be the more common phrase, but I heard it once.
Adam Buckley has been seemingly antagonizing YT by poking fun at this sorta thing too, and you still shouldn't have to describe someone offing themselves with a code phrase that legitimately sounds like something that Nick would've picked as the name for an obstacle in Double Dare, that's disrespectful as hell to any victims of someone who took that route in the audience.
That's one thing PhantomStrider constantly makes a point of when reviewing XYZ kid's flick or show; content aimed at kids, and in general, shouldn't talk down to them like they're stupid like, say, Dora does.
Language like 'unalive' when referring to killing, for example, even in a totally legitimate manner taking on some inherently dark subject matter like with any True Crime stuff, could be construed as talking down, vs. just presenting the content straight-up and being as accurate to the subject matter and as respectful to the audience which might very much include the families of the victims of whatever crimes are being covered, as humanly possible.
Like imagine pulling up a video essay on someone like Jeffrey Dahmer and having it be littered with language like 'unalive' and 'grape' when dealing with very, very serious subject matter like that, if I happened to be a family member of one of that guy's victims, I'd feel very talked down to and be insulted as hell, plus it's just not good optics to use language like 'unalive' when the subject matter you're dealing with is very dark and serious subject matter.
There is a video essay on the holocaust, that doesn’t use the word holocaust. It’s not even some bonkers right-wing propaganda.
Yeah it’s getting completely ridiculous. Also, video essays about movies have to dodge copyright scans by resorting to super aggressive editing and visual trickery that basically just ruins the whole video. On PT, they could make much nicer videos.
Even music commentary videos that were previously fine started getting dinged and having certain parts muted as a result, even if they're in Fair Use otherwise because Fair Use is dead and buried on YT and has been for years.
Nebula never works well for me. The seeking and tracking causes endless buffering, and sometimes not even a hard refresh fixes this. Their site is just so buggy but when it works, at least it works decently well.
Weird, it works fine for me. Both the site and and app.
I've used it for a year now on Linux, Android and Windows with no problems at all. Maybe something else is causing your issues.
I have never used the website, but the app has always worked really well for me.
We have an excellent set of videos and creators on the respective communities: !peertube@lemmy.world
So do we