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“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”

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[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's smart messaging

Trump is Statist, which is something loathed by both conservatives and libertarians

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

these conversations as to which political philosophy is identified correctly: No, its marxism! No communism!, socialism!, bolshevism!, always sprout up. No one cares if he is a "statist". No one cares about finely parsing which brand of leftwing is which. Its a pointless circlejerk where no one gets off in the end, so why do it?

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I can understand what she was trying to do; pull the libertarians and the conservative small state crowd to the Democrats, but it's a dumb message and I doubt current DNC voters want anything to do with them. This is why they lost so many votes and will continue to lose; they need to attract those who abstain from voting and stop trying to please potential undecided Republicans once and for all.

Trump's actions mirror the modus operandi of most dictators, whether from the left or right. The way he appointed an anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist as health secretary is reminiscent of Stalin promoting Lysenko's ideas against all the scientific evidence independently produced by his peers.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives don't care about small government. They just uaw "small government" as a dog whistle to attack racial minorities. New Deal-era and post-WW2 GI Bill policies were quite popular in the South, as they were written to exclude black people from their benefits. It was only with the Civil Rights Act and the Great Society movements, when black people started qualifying for poverty assistance just like white people, that conservatives suddenly started caring about small government.

[–] nymnympseudonym@piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Conservatives don’t care about small government.

I see this often from (presumably) liberals.

I came from a conservative family and held conservative / libertarian beliefs most of my life. These people really, really do want small government. Saying that they don't makes it impossible to understand their motives -- and we really do have to understand where people are coming from.

To complain that their political leaders sell out those ideals for the sake of buying votes is fair, but only if you admit that same set of perverse incentives is not unique to any party.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

These people really, really do want small government.

If they do, then none of their actions support this desire.

There's a reason why the venn diagram between libertarians, conservatives, and maga is practically a circle.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Except calling him a statest is misleading. He will gladly undermine the state until it is subservient to the party. That's the purges.