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As of September 2025, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 156 of the 193 member states of the United Nations (UN), or approximately 80% of all UN members. (infosec.pub)

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[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll go with a slightly older example so that it has more settled scholarship: Indonesia during the East Timor genocide. I don't think anyone stopped recognising Indonesia despite it invading and occupying what is now Timor-Leste, killing tens to hundreds of thousands of a population smaller than Gaza's, and conducting mass-scale sexual violence

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

stopped recognising

Of course they didn't. But this is about an initial recognition. This one feels unseemly to me personally.

Not saying it's wrong in principle. It certainly feels like a "sympathy recognition", much like Kosovo and indeed Timor Leste itself. But in those cases the putative independent states were not run (even partly) by religious extremists with overtly genocidal intentions.

Still, I will agree that things are not black and white.