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[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As an industrial mechanic who quit cold turkey while working, if you need a pouch like the people I see using it, it's not being used as a quitting aid. It's a replacement.

And they leave those pouches everywhere, like cigarette butts.

[–] b000rg@midwest.social 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Your experience is not universal. I quit smoking using the pouches. Sure, some people are just going to use them as their delivery method instead of a cessation aid, but that doesn't invalidate the ones like me. Stigmatizing the cessation aid hurts people in the long run because smokers will be less likely to pick them up. And if you were a smoker before, you know the smallest excuse will suffice to "delay" your quitting.

ETA: That being said, I find it absolutely vile that the companies making the pouches are the tobacco manufacturers who are getting people addicted in the first place. In a just world, tobacco executives would be treated as the slimy drug dealers they are.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

More than replacement. It's a way to sell addicts more drug because there are no use limits in society.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If we're being pedantic about it, fully replacing smoking with pouches means they technically have quit smoking, but not quit nicotine.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder if the pouches biodegrade, or if they are made from something like nylon.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Surprisingly good news.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Zonnic doesn't say and the short search I conducted did not say. I would be surprised if they were biodegradable with the company not specifically mentioning that.