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Seemed odd about his own testimony, as quoted in this article, that he keeps avoiding to mention HOW he was sitting and whether he complied when told to stop it. Makes me picture one of these assholes who put their dirty shoes on a second seat in a full train.
His odd avoidance of the core of the issue made me search for other sources. Not surprising that a quick search supports most of this. Also, he refused to stop doing that, which he also does not deny as far as the quotes from this article go.
Then, he tries to use his celebrity status to order cops to harass an elderly woman, whose statement is irrelevant because apparently there are plenty of witnesses, including the train personnel and his own confession.
Then, he seriously tries to pull the race card.
And this is the hero of Lemmy?
Hat off the elderly woman and the police, though! Wish this kind of justice would happen when I'm on the train.
This has become a cesspool of disinformation. All the out of context Kirk quotes from the past few days (was still somewhere between nonsense and disgusting in context, but an entirely different statement), and another post claims that every day 0.25 % of the US population gets shot, and this lie somehow supports the trans agenda.
Disclaimer: Judging the situation as presented in available articles, as I don't know what really happened.
You think a person should be harassed and arrested if they sit in public transit in a way someone doesn't approve of?
If someone takes off their shoes, I should feel justified in calling the cops and subjecting them to police custody?
Doing what? You made an assumption about how he was sitting and decided it has heinous enough to havw police sicc'ed on him.
This better be some well-crafted bait because I bit.
Thanks for bringing Kirk into this. Was most def needed.
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He clearly says he did not comply.
OTOH, I'm glad to see some magas showing up at Lemmy actually, maybe we can curb the infighting a bit.
Who writes such a scathing comment, and then admits that they have no idea what actually happened. For fuck sake
I was about to agree with you, in that its kind of hard to really judge whats going on in this video without seeing exactly what happened prior to the recording -- but then you just jumped completely off the deep end into crazy.
You're making a lot of assumptions. All we know is that in the end he was released, so they didn't actually have any reason to arrest him. Whatever the issue was with how he sat, there was no basis for arrest, and probably no basis to call the police at all.
Maybe he did put his dirty shoes on the seat, but the article doesn't tell us. Nobody does. All we know is that they wanted to arrest him, but couldn't. Whatever he did wasn't serious enough for it and yet they tried and held up a train for it.
It is of course only his side of the story. More info would help. But without more info, there's no reason not to believe that he was harassed mostly just for being black. It's not like this is the first time that happened.
Maybe he was harassed for his skin color, but this article did leave out the core of what happened. It’s just as likely the treatment was deserved: we have no information either way. The article jumps right to we should be outraged, without actually saying enough of what happened. And yes, I’ve seen assholes on the train where I really wished the conductor would intervene
How are theseKirk comments out of context? I'd like to see the context where these are not what they sound like?
I’m trying to envision a scenario that would warrant the arrest and I just can’t. Maybe you can contrive one for us. Loud music or bare feet, and I’m all for it; to the gallows. But sitting wrong? What?
all I've found so far:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/former-bear-writer-handcuffed-train-after-allegedcomplaint-white/story?id=125829965
It sounds like he was being an asshole TBH. I can sorta understand why the police wanted him off the train. Not completely sure why they had to handcuff him. But I mean, we've seen footage of plenty of disorderly passengers being escorted off planes for being jerks. This doesn't sound too dissimilar. That said, without seeing any actual evidence, who the hell knows.
Presumably for not listening. We’ve all seen assholes on the train where we wish the conductor would intervene. Whether deserved or not, this time they did and if you get belligerent whebpn the conductor tells you to do something, they may call the police, who will escort you off the train. I’m not saying that’s what happened, since we don’t know. Maybe this was a clear case of sitting while black, but I’m not ready to follow the herd of lemmings off the cliff when the story has such an obvious gap