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Charlie Kirk Memorial
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Let's remember Charlie Kirk for who he was.
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage." -Charlie Kirk
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Spare me the crocodile tears. He was a stain upon all mankind and pretending it represents any thing other than the lathe of heaven finally delivering a come-uppance is utterly ignorant at best, and deranged and disingenuous at worst. You are apologizing for fascism.
Self censoring the fact that Kirk was a bad dude who got what he deserved is the thing that does real damage. It doesn't matter if he had kids. Goebell had kids. Mussolini had kids.
The only tragedy is that the kind of violence required to stop these fascist movements took until things are nigh unfixable to manifest.
That active Nazis have kids makes it more important that they are stopped not less. They are not raising their kids and their footsteps. I would like to see every political leader that doesn't have a reason to say anything to just not say anything about it rather than fall all over themselves condemning political violence and pretending like this guy wasn't a piece of shit.
It sounds like in your world view that everyone you disagree with is a Nazi, so you feel like you have a moral obligation & duty to kill people you disagree with. That you want every politician to just shut up & not discourage murdering people for their ideas, so that they can be murdered for ideas as well. I don't know how you got there, or what your ideas really are... I mean, they don't sound very strong if rather than discuss them with people that disagree, that you'd prefer they just be murdered instead.
Sounds like you need to read the paradox of tolerance and fully understand it.
Charlie Kirk is, demonstrably, a Nazi. So is Trump. They are fascists. Charlie Kirk's horribly racist ideas were hidden under the thin veneer of debate and free speech. He didn't give a shit about the "other side of the debate". Hell, the fact that we are even framing things like the human rights of minority groups as something you can debate is exactly what a piece of shit like Kirk wanted.
Their vile hate speech and lies are already robbing people of things like due process.
Speaking of Nazi Germany, what was the exact day the hate speech went too far? What about the U.S. right now? It's a slippery slope, and we are descending into fascism at an alarming rate.
You don't seem to understand the actual damage being done. They are killing people. They are taking away fundamental rights from people.
Don't expect sympathy for his death from the people who can see that.
It sounds like you should maybe do some more research before coming to speak to me about Karl Popper, because I honestly doubt you've done much, at least to actually understand his writing or what he even said. Furthermore, there is a whole list of philosophers who responded to Popper & exposed several flaws in his writing that Popper himself acknowledged. Do you really want the right coming after you saying you're the intolerant one? I mean after-all, you're the one who does appear intolerant in this specific situation. Do you want them censoring your speech saying you're the intolerant one? The very same arguments you are making right now using The Paradox of Intolerance, would be exactly what would be used against you.
The same arguments are used in Gaza to justify genocide. How many times have we heard Netanyahu say they we're just defending ourself against the intolerant ones? The same genocide that Biden funded & supported, and that Kamala Cheney couldn't think of anything she'd do differently. So please, spare me pretending that I need to read something, which it appears you have not either read or spent the time to understand. Which is expected, because honestly I find your arguments pretty lazy & disingenuous.
The Paradox of Intolerance is frequently brought up by the same people on the left opposed to free speech, that believe they should be able to imprison others for speech. The very same anti free speech laws pushed by people like Netanyahu for criticizing Israel. Like, why even pretend that you're against that, when it appears that is exactly what you've been a big supporter of all along.
I've never seen hateful ideas that spread like wildfire & infect the minds & hearts of people. These are easily defeated through dialogue & debate with actual good ideas. Instead you run around claiming... "don't let them speak, you'll turn into a Nazi too if you do!"
Maybe you should work on finding better politicians. Ones that don't support genocides, or lie about their mental fitness, or use drones to kill children in Yemen, etc. How many times do you think you can call everyone you disagree with a Nazi without the word losing its meaning? Just like how many times do you think people can call those opposed to genocide antisemitic before the word is no longer negative. Do you want those words to lose actual meaning?
Look inward. Look at your own party leaders, and say... "Our blind faith in you was naive & ignorant. This was your fault."
Yeah, because it's not happening already to Kimmel, Colbert, and others. Better just lie back and take it, yeah?
I'm intolerant of who again? The guy who thinks abolition was a mistake? That women shouldn't vote? That shouldn't be tolerated.
Like most people here, I am not a fan of the mainstream left. Gaza is a genocide. The left needs fixing, but that shouldn't come at the cost of Stephen Miller becoming modern day Himmler.
You're a clown. Take the L. Everyone here thinks you're a moron.
Again, you should go read more Popper. You're clearly intolerant of those with opposing views, and I was just pointing out the flaw in the paradox with Popper later acknowledged. You're the one who brough it up & I'm explaining why it is weak, and how it could be uses against you.
I honestly don't care. If your worldview is based around what you feel are popular opinions on social media, then maybe you should learn to think for yourself.