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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

UK, France, and now Germany. The far-right really is winning everywhere huh... What can we do? Is there still hope?

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, we take it to the source: Russian propaganda should be completely cut off from the rest of the internet.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

The source of fascism is Europe itself, not Russia. We literally invented fascism, first in Italy, then Germany and finally allowed it to live unbothered in Spain.

Russian media was censored already what, two years ago? And the far right keeps exploding in popularity. Europe can't keep blaming the Russians for every bad thing happening in the continent, we have a responsibility in fighting fascism and waving hands saying it's somebody else's fault isn't going to solve it.

Racism, misogyny, islamophobia and the total loss of faith in the current system are the main reasons for far-right vote. Europe has been in an economic crisis since 2008, and electing socdems or christiandemocrats has led to the exact same policy everywhere for the past 17 years: austerity, austerity, and more austerity. Kid Starver in England, supposed labour party, enacts policy as far-right as the far-right government in Finland, both countries driving hundreds of thousands of people into poverty and austerity.

What we need to fight fascism in Europe is what worked last time: less hand-waving, and more worker organizing. Whether you like or dislike the anarchists from the CNT in Spain, or the communists from the CPSU in the east, they were the only ones who meaningfully fought, and in the latter case ultimately defeated fascism. Organize, unionize, join local worker struggles, push for international worker solidarity with Palestine.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just because the media channels got blocked didnt stop them from dealing in swill over the internet

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Believe it or not, your average far-right European voter isn't concerned with Ukraine and doesn't admire the invasion, they're mostly racist misogynist islamophobes who have been progressively impoverished by every party in the political spectrum of their country for a decade and a half in a row.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I believe it because thats the same track that was run in America.

and more often than not, if you follow the trail of how that got stirred up in the media and online, it usually leads back to Russia anyway, who would have guessed.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

Yup. I've seen a lot of deflections via: Matters in a different country or continent seem trivial when there are 'bigger' and more 'urgent' problems right in my citystate/country. Can't beat the excuses to hide ones own flaws

[–] indomara@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's happening here in Australia too. I'm watching the slow rise after being lucky enough to escape the US.

I wrote about my experience going to a racist rally a month or so ago with my husband and children.

It was supposed to be peaceful and I wouldn't have expected to be putting my kids in danger.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

idk, honestly. usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there's a global empathy shortage.. too much hate and too little love.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

usually this kind of tribalism burns itself out after a World War and a bunch of atrocities. there's a global empathy shortage.. too much hate and too little love.

It's the understandable pent up anger because of failed promises by ruling elites, hiding behind fake smiles and platitudes, who are supposed to be representative of the people. The older I get, the less the Star Wars Prequel becomes meesa Jar Jar-y. Lucas touched on toxic masculinity and the lack of positive male role models, and I think he saw something in history that none of us have twenty years ago, on how toxic masculinity influences real politics. It's obvious now how fascism has connection to toxic masculinity, but I think only few saw it at the time.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Fascism is a disease that spread rapidly in last century: 10-15 years. Imagine how fast it can spread in a world with Internet, cars, airplanes and trains. No place is safe

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only time nazis go down is when they are put down. The free world needs strength to do what's necessary and avoid the paradox of tolerance.

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only time nazis go down is when they are put down

Usually by communists in particular

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please don't insult the memory of my ancestors with your ignorance. I'm a Spaniard, and our civil war against fascism in 1936-1939 was mainly fought by anarchists and communists using Soviet-made weapons, airplanes and tanks

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yes your single example definitely justifies "usually" lmao go tour a gulag or smt tankie

[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Single example? 80% of Nazi soldiers died in the Eastern Front against the Soviets. Communist China kicked out fascist Japan from the mainland through unthinkable armed struggle. Communist Cubans kicked out fascist dictator Batista from the island. Tell me now about my single examples. You don't have to support each of those movements to see the historical fact: communists and anarchists are historically the first and most successful to fight fascism. Please provide counterexamples of capitalist countries or movements fighting against fascism and winning, until then stop spitting on the memory of the antifascist partisans in Spain and Italy.

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

The capitalists actually supported & saved the Nazis (Liberals are a death cult too)

[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Do a little honest introspection you leftie. (I'm leftist too)