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Hol up, you can't just refuse to follow MTA rules on an MTA train and expect the service to go along with you.
Arresting someone for having their feet on the seats is truly excessive. Racism almost certainly was a factor in every step of this process. The woman noticing the man, deciding to police his behavior in public, the MTA and police not just letting it go with a warning. All of it.
If feet were on a seat in violation of MTA rules they can ask you to leave. You don't get to refuse or argue your case. If that is the case here, a white person could ostensibly go through the same process. There's plenty of videos of white people doing just that and not acknowledging their own attitude and behavior and getting arrested.
That's not to say racism didn't play a role. Just that there could be a plausible explanation given the facts seemingly available for the outcome.
Edit: How many of you downvoters immediately jumped to Jussie Smollet's defense? I understand racism is a thing.
Part of racism's power is the unequal application of rules. Plausibility is often on the side of racism. While the rules may prohibit feet on the seat (were his feet on the seat here?), it is unlikely this rule is enforced against white people as often as it is for minorities. I'm sure it happens, but the point isn't "sometimes the rules are applied to white people too". The point is "the rules are more often and more extremely applied to black people".
Tangentially related, "the new jim crow" is worth reading.
I also haven't seen anything about how he was sitting "improperly", only the accusation that he was, somehow.
Which leads me to believe he wasn't, really. But even if he was, that doesn't mean race wasn't a factor. He could be sitting sprawled out, but if the conductor says "yeah I'm not dealing with this I'm calling the police" I'm very much inclined to believe the officer was likely racist, just by sheer historical precedent.
This
There's a lot of "if"s in there.
Someone posted the video above and they're sitting in a single row, typically putting your feet on the seats it's something you do in a double row with seats facing each other.
Just take your feet off the seats when the MTA worker tells you to.
If you look at the video, he was sitting in a single row, I don't see how he could've had his feet on a seat, that's something you do in a double row with seats facing you in front of you.
And a seat next to him.
People like you need to heave some sense slapped into them.
Yes, everyone should follow the rules. This is about how we as a society handle situations where people break the rules. I'm sure you've been pulled over for a traffic violation before. Imagine the best case interaction and the worst case interaction that's still within the bounds of enforcement regulations, and there's a spectrum of everything in-between. The problem people are pointing out is that one privileged group of people statistically get better interactions and another group statistically gets worse interactions.
This ends with a police interaction sure, but I just don't believe a run of the mill MTA worker who was ignoring how he was sitting prior to the complaint is forcing the interaction.
The old lady sure, ignore her. But when the train conductor tells you to sit right, just do it. Don't make it some low paid service workers problem, and force a whole train full of people to stop over it.
That's just a dick move, and I'll die on this hill pointing that out.
P.S No wonder you guys ended up with Trump in power. All sorts of exceptions to egalitarianism over there. No suffering normalcy for you lot. Stupid Americans.
There it is.
Have fun with Trump, and not following the rules because freedom, corruption and mass poverty are the same thing to you guys.
Go wave a flag (star spangled, rainbow, or both) and be for or against woke politics or Trump, anything but follow the fucking rules ... Even the basic ones like not putting your feet on the seats on public transport.
Little wonder your society is collapsing when the basics don't apply because of politics.
You sure do live in a rich imagination. What color is the sky?
What a deranged dipshit
Sure, it's a dick move. People should follow the rules and not be stubborn dicks. The point of the comparison is how we can expect the whole interaction, from the woman being upset to the arrest, to play out more likely one way than the other depending on whether the person being a stubborn dick is black or white.
Holy fuck, your privilege is showing, sweety.
MTA rules apply to all passengers.
https://www.mta.info/document/17001
Your copy pasta skills are impressive. Comprehension, not so much.
Praise challah we has you here!