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Charlie Kirk Memorial
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Let's remember Charlie Kirk for who he was.
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage." -Charlie Kirk
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He was not an advocate for free speech or debate, and misrepresenting the kind of bad faith bloviating Kirk used to manipulate a generation towards fascism .
Mistaking his bad faith tactic with free speech and debate devalues both of those things.
Her certainly was. He frequently engaged in debate in dialogue with people on the left. He even invited Cenk Ugyur to speak at TPUSA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wToisRztnMw
Just because you disagree with his opinions doesn't mean he was against free speech.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/09/16/dont-shut-down-free-speech-in-charlie-kirks-name/
Again, not sure what you hope to accomplish here. Celebrating people getting murdered for their speech isn't the win you think it is.
I'm fully aware, at orders of magnitude a higher degree, of what Charlie Kirk was about.
He was absolutely, 100%, against free speech other than for when it could be manipulated to his own ends
It sounds like you knew him well, were really close to him & he told you this personally? That you had some psychic connection & just knew he wanted to manipulate everything, and ultimately wanted everyone opposed to him in a concentration camp? That as Cenk Uygur was talking alongside him building bridges, that he was thinking to himself.. "I just can't wait until I can put Cenk in a concentration camp for what he is saying here, but I'll let those ideas propagate to my followers first."
Rather, maybe you should consider if that is what you want. Do you want people murdered that disagree with you? Do you think it somehow is good & shows your passion for free speech? Do you think it gives an impression that you are opposed to fascism?
I don't need to know him personally. He spent 8-12 hours daily expressing his ideas into a microphone and recording it.
He was utterly disingenous. To a guy like Charlie Kirk, Cenk is an easily manipulated rube. You'll notice that TYT has effectively coopted the progressive movement to elevate rightwing voices. Like, if you are citing Cenk and their interactions with Kirk, you must be like, an actual idiot, because Cenk has proven to be one of the biggest frauds on the entire internet.
TYT didn't coopt the entire progressive movement. They are a voice in the progressive movement, which anyone is capable of doing, including yourself. You claim Cenk is one of the biggest frauds on the entire internet but don't provide any evidence to support that. Cenk has been consistent, honest & fair. He has shown strong moral character & that seems to make you mad.
You've made it incredibly clear you have no idea who or what TYT is