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Let's remember Charlie Kirk for who he was.
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that does a lot of damage." -Charlie Kirk
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We all appreciate your Charlie Kirk version of dialogue and debate by ignoring all nuance to the situation and using bad faith arguments. He would be proud of you.
No, he would disagree with me which is fine. I didn't support his beliefs. I just don't think his murder was something to celebrate. I think it is what weak people do. Those who don't have strong ideas of their own. I think the more people that do it, the longer it will take the US to get more united & peaceful. I think it causes damage to the left as a whole. No Democrat that I know of would even claim people celebrating his death are a party member. They'd say it is despicable, which it is.
You have some wildly naive opinions, to the point of ignorance, if you think the left being publicly sad would have even the slightest effect of political unity. It is possible to condem political violence while acknowledging the deceased was a massive piece of shit who brought this upon himself.
Either you're moral & ethical or you're not. He didn't bring it on himself, because no one deserves to die like that for their speech. It isn't condemning violence to say it shouldn't happen but they deserved it. What you're saying instead is you're not really opposed to it as long as you think they deserve it. That is the same thing people say about the genocide. Wouldn't a better example be, that you value all human life.. even those you disagree with? That you have empathy even for those you feel might not share the same for you?
The most success I've had changing people's hearts & minds, is by having empathy to understand where they're at. To not have hate for who they are, but almost sorrow. I was bullied growing up, I know the impact it causes & so I understand wanting revenge. I also know what it is like to hurt others and even when it feels justified, it isn't something I celebrated or felt like I should.
Like, imagine all the parents with kids that have tremendous special needs & all they go through as well. Some of them can be terribly destructive, but there is still so much to cherish, love & get to know. What would the world be like if people stopped having empathy for them? Instead, everytime one unknowingly picked up a sharp object & went outside, terrifying neighbors, so they called the cops, who showed up demanding they drop it, but the kid was autistic so they couldn't understand, and the cops shot them. Are you going to celebrate it?
Say, "they brought it on themselves" & "they deserved it." Are you going to tell the parents, "well they were broken afterall?"
Are you going to argue how every time they went somewhere in public, how disturbing their challenges were to you & they deserved it? Or if someone else kills them, how you're not surprised someone would get annoyed & murder them?
If you advocate violence against people no one should be surprised when the response is violent.
I won't even address the rest of your bad faith reply because it is completely irrelevant.