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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My point is that you either want to know what an instance is or you don’t care.

If you want people to use your service, you don't call it something different than the terminology that's been in use for 50 years. Everyone knows server and service provider. There is no reason to call it an instance unless you are in IT talking to other IT. I'm not going to tell someone to map an inode when I could say "folder".

I’m not sure what part of the article you didn’t understand.

The question I have is you claimed Federation has always been used as a term for interoperating Internet services but I don't remember that. The wiki is about how the word is now used to apply to Internet services. But that word wasn't used in the past. The big trade show I went to with Vint Cerf was called Interop, not Federate.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just because you don’t remember it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen…

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

As I said, I'm open to being corrected. You only showed a wiki article about how the word is now applied to the Internet. But your claim is that the term was around from the start.

I referenced Interop as an example of how the word Federated wasn't used to apply to the Internet. You need to support your assertion.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I provided links and you provided only your assertions. The onus is now on you.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But your link wasn't evidence of anything other than its current use. It doesn't have a single historical example which was your claim.

You said Federation has always been used to describe the Internet.

A wiki page showing current word usage doesn't prove anything!

And next up is instance. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instance_(computer_science)

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your link references papers from 1970… since instance has been in use in computer science for over 50 years what exactly are you trying to argue? Did you even read the one on federation?

Seriously, just admit when you are wrong and move on.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

YOUR LINK DOES NOT SHOW ANY HISTORICAL USAGE OF FEDERATION.

YOUR CLAIM WAS THAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN USED.

If I claimed 'Gay' has always meant homosexual, and then linked to a Wikipedia definition of its current usage, that's not proof of anything!

What the fuck is wrong with you?