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An Israeli tech firm has quietly embedded spyware into Samsung smartphones - and it poses a serious surveillance threat

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Somebody convince me not to say fuck it and build my own brick of a phone with an rpi5

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, I saw that one the other day. Definitely a cool project. I might take a deeper look at it at some point.

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are a few projects already in existence that might be more convenient, than an rpi5 like fairphones, and I think the grapheneos team is looking to develop something too.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Yeah, that's the more realistic option. Though it would cost several hundred dollars more.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not that I have a better idea, but Graphene os devs I think were found to be scummy by Louis Rossmann at some point.

[–] 0xD 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Graphene is the currently most secure option, whatever drama Louis stirs up again.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

Not contestintn that, but that wasn't drama stirred up by Louis.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Source? Not arguing, I'm just not informed.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

https://youtu.be/Dl1x1Dy-ej4 This is something I could find real quick, I don't remember exactly what happened but ig you can see for yourself. Cheers

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

That's his second channel by the way, not some reposter.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

The lead developer in question seems to have stepped down from the position.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Mobile telephony support just comes as a module, so that's actually the easy part.

The harder parts are to make the whole thing consume a low enough amount of power that you can keep it running from a non-monster-sized battery, and I suspect that an RPi 5 board isn't very good for that (hobbyist development boards tend to not have been designed to avoid wasting power, even when the underlying microcontroller/processors is actually decent at it), and integrating an OS with support for a touch interface, especially if you want to avoid Android.

I mean, it's not too hard to make a brick sized dumb phone and even have it be a mobile phone powered by AA batteries, but if you want a mobile smartphone, it gets more complex.

Unless you have the time and skills to take up the challenge you would probably be better of getting something like a Volla phone with Ubuntu Touch or a Pine phone.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What if you take the battery from a small laptop? It may still be bigger than a whole smartphone, but comparatively small and with some ten watt-hours.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Even a smallish LiPo battery will give you some time. The question is how little becomes too little.

And on the other size you can always give it more battery: after all the original mobile phones were the size of a briefcase.

Ultimatelly how bad it is to go with a Raspberry Pi depends on how much more it with the software it has consumes than what a custom circuit designed for saving power using software configured for that (for example, not running needless services). Further, how much would, say, the extra power used in an HDMI connection over other more lower level protocols of talking to a display really matter next to the power consumption of the display itself or the GSM module, both of which tend to be big power users?

I know for sure that if you design a custom board with a basic STM32 microprocessor and add a 2G GSM module to it, most of the consumption ends up being the 2G module anyway, so you could probably get away with just using some hobbyist board with it instead of designing your own with just what you need and a proper Voltage Converter. However I haven't really tried doing a battery powered smartphone with an ARM SBC so I don't really know for sure.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Good luck with that