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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 86 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What gets me is that it's all a response to the generally centre right governments focusing on business for the last 45 years. Government has forgotten about the individual in the west. And the people have had enough.

Why then, do they turn further right? This should be bonanza time for the left.

  1. Far right parties are happy to tell lies to get into power, so the people hear what they want to hear.
  2. 100 years is too long for living memory to survive.
[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The answer is the conservative propaganda machine, and the USA is a prime example.

Everything that made America "great" post WW2 were "socialist" driven labour, regulatory movements that decreased wealth inequality, improved economic mobility and housing security, increased quality of life and education, held corporate criminals accountable, etc, etc.

Wealthy sociopaths took that personally, and have spent the last 55 years destroying all of them; mainly through their ownership of media and dissemination of propaganda/disinformation, destruction of education. They chose fascism over improving the species and civilisation. They are our great filter, if we let them succeed.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They're creating a system in which millions have to die for them to win and dozens have to die for us to win. I know which odds I'm taking in that bet.

[–] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but thanks to their control of the media, they've also created a system where millions will leap to defend them while demonizing anyone who criticizes them. When things get truly dire, they'll just point at some random demographic and say "it's their fault!" and their followers will eat it up.

I'd love for them to face consequences for their actions, but going by history they'll keep getting away with things until an ally backstabs them for power or the regime has eaten itself and fully fallen.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's true but as the saying goes "cut off the head of the snake and the body dies". Eventually followers have no one left to follow whereas the other group has no real leaders. Once enough realize it's a numbers game the outcome is easy enough to predict. The situation just needs to be viewed in a slightly different way than most people are conditioned to view it in.

That may be a big perspective shift but most of the constraints to our perceived available responses come from the desire to continue living within the confines of a social contract that is rapidly deteriorating. Most people haven't begun to feel that directly yet but once they do the situation could change very quickly.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I think that violence is inevitable which is what you are saying between the lines.

A couple years ago these stories broke that ultra rich are prepping for doomsday scenarios like in mad max where some horde is trying to storm their compound and they just defend themselves until everything blows over.

They do not plan on having most of humanity around. The time to stop them is now, not when everything is lost and they hide in their bunker.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

The left gained a lot but mostly from the green party. Afd voters are lumpenproletariat that is unable to read. If they could read they would not vote against their interests.

The unresolved issues caused by low birth rates and high immigration from incompatible cultures leading to less social cohesion in society.