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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Is there any context to add which makes it less appalling than it seems?

[–] remon@ani.social 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

There isn't a federal election until 2029, so these polls really don't matter.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

that is not true. it is a snapshot of current voter mentality. if this doesn't turn around it's only going to grow and get worse. that's what this is useful for.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The snapshot is not necessarily accurate thought. Who answers polls now other than political extremists?

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

you make a valid point. polls are not all equally important. this could be an insignificant one.

[–] remon@ani.social -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Right and the mentality has almost 4 years to change and a lot of things can happen in 4 years. Which is why the current mentality really doesn't matter.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It rarely change unless there is an unexpected event

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You were doing great. I agree with you on the facts, your conclusion is baffling though. The polls don’t matter right this second, but mentality absolutely does. What planet do you live on where cause and effect have no relation?

[–] remon@ani.social 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Well, feel free to worry about the polls every week then.

Here is an articles that explains why these weekly "fake elections" polls might actually be harmful to democracy (German).

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I am confused does thise poll matters or not? In your first comment you said in doesn't, on your latest you are saying that those polls hurt democracy so that mean it has an effect and that it matter

[–] Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

Poor effort. Neither subject change relates to what has been said.

And just humor your daftness, there’s actual studies (global) that show indifference and obliviousness to current events are more harmful to democracy than any other single factor

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

you're not understanding. cultures take longer than 4 years to fully foment. they have to go through a lengthy growing process where they are ignored then embraced, maybe ignored again, it's a whole thing. cultures start, then stop, then restart; or sometimes they take over and push full steam ahead. you cannot know how this current climate will be received by generations preceding it and what kind of legacy it inspires or leaves behind. it's horrifying to know that you have four years of this potential growth. why would this wane?

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Right and the current government is right-wing neoliberals. They're only going to make everyone's lives worse so unless die Linke manages to drastically improve its reach, the discontented masses will continue to move towards fascism.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Once die Linke stops sucking Russian cock they can have my vote on the federal level. They got 4 years to make it happen.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do they do in this manner?

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The are generally pacifists and reject military spending. The official party program still contains the goal of leaving NATO and forming a defensive alliance with Russia.

To be fair, a lot of their politicians have softened their stance on these issue in the face of Russia's invasion of Ukraine but, at least from my perspective, the party itself still clings to overly idealistic policies that are just absurd in the current geopolitical climate.

The do have very good domestic policies though and I'd vote for them in local and state elections (sadly I can't because I live abroad). But for my federal vote, they really have to update their stance on foreign policies.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

You had me concerned for a moment thinking there was some scandalous russian influence i hadn't heard of.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Based on my conversation with some Germans, even if afd did have the most offices held, they wouldn't have the majority. The other parties would tend to work together and afd would tend to be on their own.

[–] chillhelm@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

This is only partially correct. The CDU (conservatives) has growing faction in it that wants to "normalize" relations with AfD and enter a coalition with them. Steigbügelhalter is gonna halt Steigbügel.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A party not having the majority doesn't stop fascism from taking over as Germany well knows.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Not a guarantee, just a qualifier to show it's not a "done deal" to save someone a degree of dread.