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Turning Point USA spokesman Andrew Kolvet on Saturday said Charlie Kirk's surgeon called it an "absolute miracle" that the bullet that killed him didn’t exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.

"I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie. I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know," Kolvet, the executive producer of "The Charlie Kirk Show," wrote in a lengthy post on X.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is literally physically impossible, by the way, to make comport with the current official story.

There is 0 chance a 30.06 round fired from 150 yards would stop 'just under the skin'.

A 30.06 at 500 yards can blow apart the bones of an elk or moose.

Literally 0 chance that what is being described is physically possible.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but have you considered jesus?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Funny suggestion, coming from, ostensibly, a Slaaneshi cultist.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you seen the ballistics gel videos on YouTube? The entire human head explodes

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes I've seen it, but that is from a shot hitting roughly dead between the eyes.

Yes, that is what a 30.06 would do had it entered there... but what we are being told is that it entered around where the neck meets the shoulders, on Kirk's left side of his neck.

When bullets of sufficient energy hit a human head, the head tends to basically crack like an egg.

The neck / clavicle region would not... explode to quite that same degree, but the wound should be larger for a 30.06, roughly at least the size of a soft ball should be completely blown out of his neck area.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah should be a spectacular exit wound, especially so if it hit bone like the doctor claims?

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah.

So... this means...

Either it was actually Robinson who took the shot, but not with a 30.06...

Or... It wasn't Robinson, and there was another / different shooter, Kirk was not actually shot from the front, the blood geyser was an exit wound, not an entry wound, again from not a 30.06, but with a smaller caliber and different bullet trajectory, where the bullet could actually have made the neck geyser wound, and then lodged itself not too far away, near the skin ... and Robinson is being set up as a patsy...

Or, whoever this surgeon is, is lying.

Or, the TPUSA person claiming some surgeon said this, is lying.

EDIT:

It is also probably worth mentioning that uh, Netanyahu denied Israel was involved in the shooting... before anyone made that accusation.

Because we all know everything Israel and Mossad does is above board, totally morally perfect in all ways.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/netanyahu-charlie-kirk-murder-israel-maga-trump-b2828940.html

Netanyahu’s response comes after MAGA commentators have claimed Kirk was privately far more critical of Netanyahu’s Israeli government than he let on publicly.

See, nobody of major prominence on the right wing had actually said 'I think Israel killed Kirk' before Netanyahu denied killing Kirk.

What people on the right were saying was that relations between Kirk and some Israeli donors had gotten tense in the days and weeks prior.

... But nobody had actually directly said or implied that Israel killed Kirk... but Netanyahu felt compelled to deny that, explicitly.

And just in case anyone reading this needs a refresher on how words work:

Israel != All Jews

Anti-Zionism != Anti-Semitism

Also, most American Jews are uh, you know, highly critical of Israel's ongoing genocide... its white evangelicals that have a hard on for Israel, by way of hating Muslims, and the destruction of Israel being necessary for their apocalyptic end times prophecy.

Also also, Tiktok is currently ablaze with a mass religious/spiritual psychosis trend of many American Christians believing the rapture, the apocalypse, is going to happen on... this upcoming Tuesday.

Mhm. Yep. This all seems very normal.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 3 days ago

I heard someone else say they saw people claim it was happening on Tuesday.

Matthew 24:36, 39, 43-44

[36] “But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. [39] and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. [43] But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. [44] Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

From what I've heard in the endless discourse from unverified sources, he was wearing plates because he was afraid his new stances on a certain topic would get him killed, which is why the sniper went for the neck

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What you've heard is wrong.

You would have been able to see the outline of plate armor imprinting under his clothes.

Instead, you can see his nipples poking through his fairly thin white shirt.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Would make sense, not going to watch that video again to double check.

Its been bad enough that I've had to spend the past five or so years navigating the internet between ethnic cleansings (there are multiple currently happening, West Papua is being bombed as we speak), war crimes and police killings.

I'm sure it's doing wonderful things to the brains of the people actively watching

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not only that btw, but the armor needed to stop a 30-06 is NIJ level IV rated, like these. Thick bois. Not only could it have taken out a moose at 5x the distance, at that distance it would have blown through level III plates, much less soft armor that'd be concealable. And none of that helps when the round hits your unarmored neck lol.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I have also seen videos of guntubers actually testing the same caliber and range, against a level 4 plate, and they aim the shot at the top edge of the plate, such that it could maybe kind of plausibly do the internet theorized 'it bounced off his plate into his neck' test.

Yeah, the top chunk of the plate breaks off.

Not even level 4 plate is guaranteed to totally stop a 30.06 at such a close range.

And we... would have seen a chunk of plate blowing off in the up close, higher res videos.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

True, it'd have to pretty much be a square hit especially at that distance (but it is rated by the NIJ to stop two 30-06 black tips, supposedly at 15m.)

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol, add a tactical phonebook, just to be safe.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

Hah! I think so? Might have to rob a museum.