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[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Forgive my ignorance, but why is this happening now?

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think they previously announced it would happen on a deadline if certain conditions were not met. And now it appears that those conditions were not met.

[–] 0li0li@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Ok, but does that do anything, like force NATO countries to treat it any differently or trigger some article somewhere? Pardon my ignorance.

[–] TomViolence@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't know either but it seems Israel government is furious about it, so I guess it's already a win.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Israel is a good actor

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 4 days ago

Nope, not at all.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No. This isn't a NATO thing. NATO is pretty much only concerned with the security of the North Atlantic area.

After recognising the state of Palestine, these countries can proceed to exchange ambassadors with Palestine.

[–] WiredBrain@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, I'm pretty sure Yugoslavia was never a part of the North Atlantic area. Unless we're counting the Mediterranean Sea. But I don't think that helps the argument here...

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

The North Atlantic area is defined in an expansive, but not unlimited, manner. The treaty defines the North Atlantic area as:

  • all of North America
  • The Atlantic ocean, including islands, north of the Tropic of Cancer
  • the "home" territory of any European member.

So, Turkey is at the extreme flank of the area, by having a bit of core territory in Europe. All of Turkey's territory is covered, though, even the parts not in Europe.

Palestine is not eligible to join the alliance, because its territory is not in Europe or North America.

Some other tidbits: Guam, Hawaii, the Falkland Islands, Reunion, and the British Indian Ocean Territory are all examples of member territories that are not protected because they fall outside the North Atlantic area.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

To my knowledge israel is not in the north atlantic so why they express support for a settler colonialism project? Yugoslavia where they intervened was not in the north atlantic area either

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_219309.htm

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mostly public pressure, and probably some residual guilt.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

Oh ok. Just in time, too.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

A smoke screen to claim to support palestine while still giving israel weapons to destroy palestine