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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hard-fought victories eroded one at a time, and then all at once.

Fuck.

[–] Eyron@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

To me, it's unclear what "hard-fought" means here. Are there any rights that aren't hard-fought? Are hard-fought rights different from the other ones?

Every right we have has been fought for. The fights often came at a significant cost, with sacrifice, and required conviction. I remember how "hard-fought" was used, and what it used to mean, so it really makes me wonder how you're using it.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hard-fought victories

I don't think women's rights (especially the right to work) have been "hard-fought" in any way.

Sure there have been protests and riots of women who demanded these rights, but that did jack shit to change the situation. What really changed the situation was the insight of capitalists that they could get more workers, and thus more productive ability, if women joined the workforce. All it took for that is to influence the media to make these new policies seem preferable, and the people accepted it.

[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's an utterly fucking bizarre position considering that women in the workplace far predate women's rights.

This is, unfortunately, a common libertarian take. The best economic decision says to not discriminate as the more workers you have, the more you produce, thus the free market is what really created these civil rights.

It completely ignores history, but that is a pretty common libertarian take.