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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

As funny as it is, and as much as your elementary school English teacher enforced it, this isn't actually how the English language works. If I'm anti-anti-abortion that doesn't mean I'm trying to make people have abortions, for example. It could mean anywhere from being against a total ban to the furthest range of trying to force them in every case on everyone.

(Trump is a fascist though.)

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Your example still means you would be kinda pro abortion. At least for the option to be there. Some would even say "an enabler for abortion".

If someone would be the same level for fascists, I would still call them fascist. Others would maybe just call them a fascist enabler, but not being fascist, but still being pro fascist, is still very evil IMO.

[–] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

There are no enablers/collaborators; there are just fascists.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well being anti Antifa could mean you are on one end okay eith fascism or the other end support fascism 100%.

In both cases you are a fascist IMO

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Eh, no. Not really. You could be just against people who are actively against fascism. You don't need an opinion on it. You should have an opinion on it, but it isn't required.

For the abortion example, letting people have a choice is within the range of possibility for anti-anti-abortion. The same here. The problem is Fascists don't want to let people have a choice, so you're fucked up you allow them to make the decisions.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, letting people have a choice is pro-choice, the opposite of anti-abortion.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 days ago

I was speaking semantically, not about the movement. Anti-anti-abortion could be pro-choice or pro-abortion (again, semantically).

As far as the movements go, the "pro-life" movement isn't pro-life or anti-abortion, it's anti-choice. Semantics is important, and they do not necessarily agree with the typical word's meaning that are used.