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[–] chisel@piefed.social 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

They already can. How is hiring an H1B any different than outsourcing? For a higher cost, you get a local workforce in the same time zone with a higher quality of work. That's the same proposition as hiring citizens. Sure, if H1Bs didn't exist, or were made more equitable such that H1B workers are fairly compensated, some percentage of the current H1B jobs would be outsourced. But I bet it'd be a low percentage since that option already exists yet companies have decided that a local workforce is worth an extra cost.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
  1. outsourcing firms pay their staff maybe 1/10th what the h1b guys are making.

  2. all the h1b tech guys i know are happy about living in the us. i think many of them intend to go for citizenship

[–] chisel@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah, H1B people are people too. They're capable and looking to better their lives. It's a better deal for them to come and work in the current conditions than it is for them to stay home, otherwise they wouldn't do it. But the problem is, they're stuck in their jobs under threat of deportation, and companies know that treating them like shit is still better for them than going home. Companies use it as a way to extort them, pay them paltry wages, and to lower the leverage of citizens so they can pay them less too. So we either need to make the H1Bs less appealing to companies so that employing H1Bs is not preferrable employing citizens (i.e. add massive cost), or give the H1B people additional leverage so that if companies treat them like shit, they can work elsewhere.