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[–] aleph@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Oh, I've been following the whole thing for years and know who she is.

I just don't think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine equates to it being okay for Russia to annex part of a neighbouring country.

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Democracy is when you replace an elected leader with a pro-western one.

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Liberal Democracy is all about giving Americans the right to vote in your countries elections.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

pro-democratic

democracy is when you pick the new officials yourself on a phone call with Geoffrey Pyatt

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Pro-democracy is when you ban left opposition but not fascists. Anti-corruption is when you have offshore accounts connected to the oligarch who funded said fascists that you used to work for on his TV program

[–] TheOtherwise@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What are you referencing with the last part?

[–] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelensky and his inner circle had offshore accounts connected to Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is an oligarch that owned the TV station Zelensky worked for prior. He also funded nazi militias that couped the government in 2014

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 54 points 2 years ago (1 children)

supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine

[laughs in Operation Aerodynamic]

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oh wow, really? A cold-war era campaign? You're really pushing Putin's talking points here.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 2 years ago

Inb4 muh little green men

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago

Lmao I refuse to believe you've ever heard or read about Vladmir Putin discussing that

[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 53 points 2 years ago

democracy is when you elect zelensky on a platform of peace with russia but he lets the Right Sector and Azov continue to try the ethnic cleansing of eastern ukraine

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Can you find Ukraine on a blank political map?

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 42 points 2 years ago

I just don't think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform

Is this a joke? Pro democracy? Anti corruption? When has the US ever stood for that outside of propaganda purposes?