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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Math competitions need to start assigning problems that require counting the letters in fruit names.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Word problems referring to aliens from cartoons. "Bobbby on planet Glorxon has four Strawberies, which are similar to but distinct from earth strawberries, and Kleelax has seven..."

I also wonder if you could create context breaks, or if they've hit a point where that isn't as much of a factor. "A train leaves Athens, KY traveling at 45 mph. Another train leaves Paris, FL traveling at 50 mph. If the track is 500 miles long, how long is a train trip from Athens to Paris?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 12 hours ago

LLM's ability to fake solving word problems hinges on being able to crib the answer, so using aliens from cartoons (or automatically-generating random names for objects/characters) will prove highly effective until AI corps can get the answers into their training data.

As for context breaks, those will remain highly effective against LLMs pretty much forever - successfully working around a context break requires reasoning, which LLMs are categorically incapable of doing.

Constantly and subtly twiddling with questions (ideally through automatic means) should prove effective as well - Apple got "reasoning" text extruders to flounder and fail at simple logic puzzles through such a method.