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Sure you have, it was called Trump's first term.

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[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We're well on our way towards famine.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, you folks are just speed running the apocalypse, aren't you.

Pestilence, War and now potentially Famine.

[–] Ironfist79@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Might as well get it over with.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think it’s more of the old republic Roman issue, the small farmers are being eaten up by giant corporate mega farms. Food production will continue but as a monopoly, where they can charge you $100 for a head of lettuce if they feel like it.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At what point do the eight different megacorps who each want half of my money go to war with each other when I can't actually buy their product anymore and just die?

After their private armies nuke each other, maybe we can plant some Mutfruit and raise some Brahmin on the irradiated soil that’s left behind

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, you're not. The average US consumer, even those who are desperately poor, still has significantly more buying power than the vast majority of the planet. A collapse in American agriculture will just mean a vast upswing in food imports, because for most of the world it will always be more profitable to sell that food to a US grocery chain than it will be to sell it locally. This will increase costs for US consumers, and push more Americans into poverty, but it won't cause a famine in the USA.

What you are well on your way towards is causing famines across vast portions of the world that aren't you. Famines that Americans will barely even notice, much less care about.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah poor people can just make more money to buy the more expensive food, it's genius

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Show me in my previous comment where I said that.

My point was not "Americans will be OK." I explicitly said that a collapse of American agriculture would push many more Americans into poverty.

But poverty is not famine. As awful as poverty is, famine is actually, somehow, worse. Poverty kills people, and in the scenario imagined it would kill many more people, but the absolute worst impacts would still be felt in places much further afield. America's failure would create destructive ripple effects across the world.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I think they are saying that our poor people already have "more money," at least relative to others who might get that food.

And the bug you describe is also a feature if you're the greedy fucker at the top trying to take advantage of desperate people.