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Contrary to what a lot of people think, I see this as a good sign. This right here is proof that MAGA has no future and that its days are numbered. A movement needs to be practical, flexible, coherent for it to last, and MAGA doesn't have any of these. MAGA currently has no morals, no values, no platform, no leadership outside of Trump, nothing. Everything starts and stops with Trump. Anything he says goes no matter how contradictory, insane, or nonsensical. He has purged the GOP and his own movement of anyone and anything that is capable of independent thought. He has made sure that MAGA and the GOP are exclusively made up of of yes men, which happen to be either slimy opportunists or blind loyalists.
This means that the moment Trump dies, MAGA will die with him. Without Trump serving as the de facto prophet, the movement will immediately fracture and the different factions will start fighting each other. This will lead them to be ineffective, which in turn will make them irrelevant with time. As for the GOP, it will become a blank slate as it will stand for nothing. It that will either collapse or reform to completely change from the top down. Because of this, I don't think MAGA is going to last long, but we just have to brace for the all the damage that they will cause in the little time they will be in power.
This is what I thought in 2016.
I think there's a distinct difference between now and 2016, back then MAGA was rather diverse in its makeup. There were libertarians, fiscal conservatives, moderate Republicans, neocons, evangelists, and so on. The point is that this diversity allowed for an internal discourse to exist to keep the party somewhat balanced. This stopped being case during the pandemic, and I mark Jan 6th as the official turning point. That's when Trump's purges reached their peak and the only people who were left were blind loyalists, grifters, or corrupt career politicians. Now? There's no balance anymore, it's entirely just Trump growing ever more demented and insane, and his flock of yes men cheering on whatever he says. That's not a sustainable movement or ideology, it will collapse in on itself sooner or later.
Even if you’re right, the damage they’ve done to the US government, journalism, and the Earth is immeasurable and will take decades to repair if we even can anymore.
I think people really underestimate just how much valuable work various branches of the US Government does, and MAGA has destroyed generations of work within a year.
I don't disagree with you, but I am optimistic that damage control will begin the moment MAGA is out of power. The moment the next non-MAGA government gets into power, they will immediately start reversing as many of the damaging policies as they could. Will things go back to the way they were? Probably not. Will things be fixed quickly? Definitely not. However, I do think that we will at least be put back on the right track as a country.
The only way they have no future is if we stand up to them and deprive them of it.
True, but I'm also optimistic that MAGA will collapse in on itself. History has shown that movement that lack balance, principles, internal discourse, coherency, and flexibility don't last long. The only thing keeping MAGA together is Trump, and he has no successor. Once he dies, MAGA WILL shatter like broken glass. I see a lot of parallels between MAGA and the know nothings from the mid 1800s.
One down already!