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Leaked Chats Show Alleged Kirk Killer 'Doesn't Fit Into Any Tidy Narrative'
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When I was in politics I have a friend that used to say: "The best way to win is not to act like them".
I still live by that phrase. I don't want ro become then thing I want to destroy.
Maybe it is just me. I cannot stand lies. I left political activism mostly because I saw people on my same group lying "for the cause". And I cannot be dishonest or stand dishonesty, no matter the cause.
Personally, I would rather live in a democracy as a liar than die under fascism knowing that I always told the truth.
The thing is that when you build something using the enemy tactics you end up with the country the enemy wanted.
When you use fascist tactics you end up in a fascist state. If you don't believe me ask me most revolutionary countries that did "everything possible" to build the workers paradise.
I don't really think there's a way to do bad things and end up with a good result.
Worked pretty well in WWII. when someone is as bad as the Nazis (and MAGA is every bit as bad as the Nazis), doing very bad things to them is the moral choice. You aren't hurting bad people, you are protecting good people, using the appropriate level of force required. It's a necessary use of violence to defend the good.
If we are at war give me a rifle and let's go killing people.
If we are not at war we shouldn't behave like that.
Anyway, the allies didn't lie about the nazis. Or about the people killing the nazis.
I'm 100% serious that I'm more against lying about the killer than against the assassination per se.
Among other things, if the killed end up being left wing you are throwing a lot of shit about a a fellow leftist, calling him groyper, racist and everything. And he may be "one of us". That's a fucked up thing to do in the name of propaganda.
Propaganda is just marketing. In fact, the guy who coined the word propaganda was an expert in marketing and advertising.
MAGAs have the Conservative Propaganda Machine, which is a wonder to behold, and 100% responsible for their success. They are extremely organized and have been honing their skills for DECADES. The CPM recruits, indoctrinates, excuses, rallies, insults, spins, and much more. It is their nuclear weapon, and they deploy it all day, EVERY day.
The Dems have literally nothing to offer in response. Even their own representatives, like Schmuck Schumer, are far more interested in insider trading than governing. He just recycles the same stern letter/speech for each loss of our Constitutional rights. Look at how Trump broadcasts his success with everything, even if it hasn't even happened. Contrast that with Biden, who had an extremely successful presidency, but the Dems didn't think it would be polite to brag. So his presidency ended up being dominated by his piss poor performance in reigning in MAGA, which was well within his rights and responsibilities to CRUSH as a viable National Security Threat, and he will forever be remembered as one of the weakest presidents in history.
If the Dems are ever going to regain power, they need to get control of their messaging. Right now, it is literally non-existent. It needs to be coordinated, widespread, and LOUD.
They also need a progressive platform, but that's a separate discussion.
The Dems literally won Trump twice by popular vote.
"The Dems being weak" is another piece of propaganda. They are a massive, powerful predatory organization. They have as much power as the GOP. But it's part of their propaganda machine to make people believe they are so weak, that's why things are not good. So people doesn't understand that things are bad when the Dems are in power because they don't want to do good things.
The Democratic party behavior is one prime example on why I'm against lying for the cause. You end up with people that lies and brainwash their own people to keep in power.
Hard to take you seriously when your first sentence is 100% factually wrong.
2016 election:
Donald Trump 62,984,828
Hillary Clinton 65,853,514
2020 election:
Donal Trump 74,223,975
Joe Biden 81,283,501
But yeah, the Dems are "weak", and they don't have a propaganda machine to make people vote them.
Sorry, your sentence structure was sketchy, and I read it wrong. I thought you said that Trump won the popular vote twice.
In reality, he lost it three times. I don't believe for a second that he got the popular vote in 2024. They claim that the swing states had millions of ballots with a straight Dem ticket, except Trump at the top. That's a complete lie, which the Dems enthusiastically adopted.
I have never heard a single person claim that they voted that way, not one, and yet there are supposed to be millions. Also, studies have shown that that voting pattern existed only in the Swing States. Why didn't it happen in other states as well?
Obviously, Elon (and the Russians) hacked the machines to switch votes from Kamala to Trump, and do it in numbers big enough that he can claim bragging rights about being the popular vote winner. It obviously stuck in his craw that his previous win had been a fluke of the Electoral College, and he was just one more illegitimate Republican (MAGA) president without popular support.
Besides that disputed election, the Republicans (now MAGA) haven't won the popular vote since Reagan.