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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 205 points 12 hours ago (7 children)

At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:

Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.

That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago

reddit might want AI to control some of the subs, dont you think?

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 91 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 50 points 12 hours ago (3 children)
[–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 37 points 12 hours ago

While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks, I wanted to say that but I couldn't figure out how to spell it.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

That's what I guessed. Alternative is a fine alternative word though.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] logi@piefed.world 8 points 11 hours ago
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 26 points 12 hours ago

The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Gotta boost user numbers.

Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 5 points 11 hours ago

That's it. It's the illusion of fairness and it takes away reddit jannies' ability to show off their powermod status, and that's the only incentive they have not to use sockpuppets for every sub they mod.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This is actually another of Reddit's decisions that I'm in agreement with. Subscriber count isn't a very useful number, it largely just measures how old a subreddit is. You can already see how old the subreddit is much more accurately by looking at its founding date.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 8 hours ago

If they'd added, yes. But removing it completely is just a way to hide how many are on the platform.

Or left in a protest

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 28 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.

What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.

A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.

[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.

On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?

That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.

Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago

at least you wernt like that anti-work mod that went ON FOX, that actually drew negative attention to the site.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers). 50/50 irl users/bots. at least right now, its reddit is filled with charlie kirk propaganda(negative and positive), with a little hint of luigi.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 hours ago

it took another one from the series of purges this year too. i think the purges did alot more damage than reddit is letting on. since they were doing it for months on end, i was seeing a real decrease in users posting, and mostly it was replaced by bot posting.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 20 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 3 points 11 hours ago

Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn't include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.

Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.

[–] Fyrnyx@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 10 hours ago

Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That's ridiculous.

Users like that should not have that much power.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago

It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.