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Fairphone’s new cables and chargers are LONGTIME®-certified. Here’s what that means.
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I don't give a shit about what fairphone does anymore. They removed the headphone jack to follow trends and sell their own pos wireless earbuds.
Just another company attempting to leverage its green messages to get more sales.
They removed the headphone jack because noone except for a handful of loud crybabies needs it and anyone that actually needs it could use a 1€ USB-C adapter instead of whining about it.
No organisation is perfect but to use this one point as a reason they are evil is absurd. No one else seems to make a product that is anywhere near as sustainable, environmentally conscious and ethical. You gotta pick your battles and imo this is a battle for when the whole industry has taken up fairphone's standards
Never called them evil. Id probably put it closer to misguided.
They are battling for industry standards? Yet they just follow the industry trend?? Which is it? imo you can't have both.
It just informed me of the fact they if they were tasked with doing something for their consumers and longevity or doing something for their bottom line they are gonna pick their bottom line. Right now most their bottom line benefits from being "eco aware" telling you they will be in it for the long haul. But I don't really trust that will always be the case cause they already showed what corner they thought they could cut and still keep users "happy". Influence And Money destroys most.
Wireless headphones are destined to be landfill waste practically from the day they are made. Just because they made theirs a little user serviceable doesn't negate the fact that when the Bluetooth codec on em gets too old or incompatible they will be trash. Unlike wired headphones which don't need to rely on any of that and can last basically as long as you take care of them or the physical materials degrade.
I don't think they blindly follow the trend to remove the headphone jack. They said they did it cause it free up space, make it a bit cheaper, and make it a bit easier to engineer the device for their small team. I think those are fair arguments and better than apple just saying "it took courage" and do little else with it.
They have literally kept repairability the same throughout their phones (and now other devices). They have also kept replacements parts and sending out some software updates for their old phones too. Imo, they have yet to compromise on their core promise.
One day Bluetooth may not be backwards compatible but to my knowledge that has not happened for over 10 years. I have a Bluetooth speaker from 2014 that still connects to every Bluetooth device. Unfortunately the battery on that is shit now and I can't replace it... So it will go to the landfill soon. If fairphone made that speaker then I could still use it. Playing down replaceable batteries in fp's headphones is crazy. I would agree, however, that their headphones (especially the in ears) should be better so that people actually want to keep them.
How does removing the headphone jack change their position?
It does dilute it somewhat since it means there are more batteries and integrated circuits in stuff that don't necessarily need it. I personally don't think it's a problem (as I have indicated in my other response) cause I just prefer Bluetooth headphones anyway but ultimately they aren't the most environmentally conscious way to listen to music
I don't prefer wireless headphones, as can probably be told by my impassioned argument. But I also recognize the convenience of them, even if I think it's not that much of a convenience over a pair of wired earbuds. I just see no reason other than their bottom line why they couldn't have given us both options.
You already have to make a compromise in your hardware choices when choosing a Fairphone, because their hardware is simply put nowhere nearly as competitive to the other phones out there that compete in their price category, with the longevity of their updates as well. That singular choice demonstrated to me that the compromise you have to make for a more sustainable phone is ultimately not worth it, because they're willing to sacrifice their sustainability in order to push sales of another one of their own products.
Their hardware will never match the prices of other brands spec for spec because thats not the only thing your getting. Your also getting repairability and materials sourced and manufactured as ethically as possible. That costs money and is where all other manufacturers skimp on.their phones definitely used to be too slow but since the 5 they are find for everyday use in my experience.
It's just bullshit to me. There was no reason to do it other than industry trends and their want to sell their own wireless headphones (another industry trend).
There was no reason they couldn't do both keep a headphone jack and sell wireless headphones. But they looked at the bottom line and went with the option that was good for their pockets, not their consumers.
Shouldn't they though? They are already competing at a disadvantage. If selling Bluetooth headphones allows them to continue making phones as sustainably as possible, shouldn't they do so instead of going out of business or compromising elsewhere?
No because wireless headphones are not sustainable.
Also and this is my opinion they don't compete at a disadvantage because of their sustainability. They compete at a disadvantage because they have yet to make a phone with hardware that actually makes them worth buying. They're whole selling point is sustainability but nothing else makes their phones worth while when there are other players in the industry with better hardware at the same price and with software updates for close to the same length as fairphone.
So to me when their whole brand is focused on sustainability and you have to give up better hardware for that yet they make a whole unsustainable decision and remove the one feature that most phones has dropped for "industry standards" why would i ever consider the company?
Imo since the fair phone 5 the speed of their devices has seemed adequate for most things outside of gaming. I recently got a fp6 and it's snappier than I expected. You don't need a flagship processor unless your gaming.
What company would you consider? I'm not aware of any other phone company that a really gives a damn about repairability, sustainability, and longevity of their products.
Pixels have 7 years of updates. Lol.
Do they have the same level of sustainability or ethical sourcing? No. But they still do uses plenty of recycled materials for its production.
But its a way better phone hardware wise for a price that is very similar. With enough "eco washing" for most people to not give a shit.
to be honest, I agree with you somewhat. but it's the best we got for now till a competitor comes along.
that being said though headphone jacks are SO annoying because they make noise and fall out so easily, I wish we could get a 2nd USBC instead.
also I'm gonna keep using my Pixel 8 till security updates run out then see how fairphone is doing. It was a tough decision to get the pixel but the fairphone 5 wasn't sold where I live back then :(
have you seen miad 01? it's more of a dac with a phone but they got 4.4mm, i think it's a cool idea
edit: idk what kinda jacks you had, maybe i'm not using it that much but i've never had one fall off, even on a phone that i reassembled before. what kind of failure point was it?
Which is a damn shame.