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Presumably they're going to release the body to the family at some point, and at that stage it'll become obvious whether the legs are broken or not broken. It would have to be a pretty shockingly brazen coverup for that part of the story to be true and covered up.
"Oops, we accidentally cremated him."
Correct, that kind of thing has happened before. That would be a shockingly brazen coverup.
I agree, and at the same time... I can still see it as a possibility given everything else going on. There are plenty of ways "unfortunate mishandling" can happen.
I have even lower trust these days. There is so much willingness to blatantly lie all the way up to the federal level that I doubt I would trust any report produced. Not to say I'd assume it was something else, just that I have virtually zero trust in the police there or the coroner.
What I'm saying is that you do not have to trust the police or the coroner in order to know whether the guy's legs were actually broken.
I understood entirely.
What I said was there is entirely the possibility of "Oops! His body went to the furnace instead", or "oh no! The body was mishandled and fell", or a whole variety of other things.
Off the top of my head, I can recall cases where:
I'm saying its not a guarantee until the body of this kid ends up with the family, and given the history in this particular area.... I have little to no trust of those involved.
I mean, there's a possibility that Mossad killed Charlie Kirk. And sure, if something happens that leads towards that conclusion then it'll be extremely revealing about whether or not that's a reasonable conclusion.
IDK what type of argument you're looking to have here which leads you to keep repeatedly emphasizing your side of this thing, but I am planning to stop now on my side. Have a blessed day.
I wasn't having an argument.
I agreed with you. And then I said I have little trust in those responsible for handling things, making it a concern.
Then you seemed to completely misunderstand what I said, so I clarified.
Not everything is an argument, sometimes a comment is just additional thoughts.
Fair enough. I didn't misunderstand anything, I just wasn't real overt about responding to it directly I guess.
As I see it, there are two possibilities:
In the second case, there's fuckery by the coroner. In the first case, there's not (which of course doesn't mean he wasn't lynched of course). I just don't get how trust for the coroner or police needs to enter into that equation in any capacity. Sure, if they fuck with the body or have some ridiculous excuse for why the legs were broken, then it also means that the coroner is dirty and trying a coverup for some horrendous reason. But it's not like the original question is going to stay as an unknowable thing.
People have this kind of knee-jerk "the system is going to lie about everything" reaction which sometimes makes them kind of throw up their hands on the concept of every getting to the bottom of anything, and I think that's insidious, especially when they start inserting all kinds of speculation and saying it's a possibility so who knows. We're going to be able to tell if his legs were broken or not with a pretty high degree of certainty at some point in the pretty near future. I feel like it's good to hold onto that ability to make sense of the world instead of retreating into nihilism and just assuming everyone's probably lying and giving up. Doesn't that make some sense?
I don't think gross incompetence would be entirely unexpected! But it would put really heavy lean into the 'fuckery' bucket, definitely.
I understand, and I wasn't saying that so much as "Ugh, I really hope this doesn't get handled poorly". What I was saying - for clarity - is there is a long history of racism there and enough is off about this to make me put on my "worried" hat. That I would feel more assured about how this would be handled if there were more trustworthy folks involved, but thats unfortunately not an option given the current administration, instead needing to wait not just for the coroner to finish, but for the family to receive his body and have the unpleasant experience of potentially needing to get their own specialist to take a look.
Even just the prospect of a family needing to verify the report is an upsetting reality.