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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 174 points 1 day ago (4 children)

“The whole thing is screwed up,” said John Painter, a three-time Trump voter who runs an organic dairy farm in Westfield. “We need people to do the jobs Americans are too spoiled to do.”

What wages are you offering? Perhaps you are the one who has been spoiled by cheap labor.

“We moved to H-2A out of necessity,” added Sarah Zost, an orchard grower in Gardners, Pennsylvania. “No one wants to use the program. It’s a paperwork nightmare.”

So it's fine to require these immigrants to jump through all sorts of hoops and navigate the beauracracy, but for these poor American farmers running businesses it's simply too much to ask.

The cognitive dissonance with these fools is astounding.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What wages are you offering? Perhaps you are the one who has been spoiled by cheap labor.

The thing is that if you increase wages, food products in the supermarket get slight (but only very slightly more expensive). We're talking: the apple costs 34c instead of 32c. It's very slight increases, because labor in many types of food products make up only a small part of the total cost of the product. Basically people are fear-mongering that food would become unaffordable, but it's only a slight increase, and it would be more than compensated by the better wages, which make the products more affordable.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No. That means that the farmer's costs go up. The price in the supermarket is set by consumer demand, so an increase in cost at any point in the chain (farmer, logistics, retail) reduces the profits of ownership.

This is why minimum wage increase have been consistently proven to NOT have the dire effects that conservatives claim they will.

The dire consequence of decreased profits.

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