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Vice President JD Vance on Monday jumped onto the conservative movement demanding consequences for those who have cheered Charlie Kirk’s killing, calling on the public to turn in anyone who says distasteful things about the assassination of his friend and political ally.

“When you see someone celebrating Charlie’s murder, call them out,” Vance urged listeners on the slain activist’s podcast Monday. “And hell, call their employer.”

Vance’s call also included a vow to target some of the biggest funders of liberal causes as conservatives stepped up their targeting of private individuals for their comments about the killing. It marked an escalation in a campaign that some warned invoked some of the darkest chapters of American history.

“The government involvement in this does inch this closer to looking like McCarthyism,” said Adam Goldstein of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, referring to the 1950s campaign to root out communists that led to false allegations and ruined careers. “It was not a shining moment for free expression.”

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[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nah, it's 'free speech' for Nazi scum like himself, not for anyone else.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean I agree he was Nazi scum.

But his whole schtick was generating anger in front of live audiences. They eat it up.

So I disagree. Kirk was a piece of shit but I don't recall him ever calling foul on someone saying something mean.

Without people able to walk up to him and debate freely, he wouldn't get his entire schtick.

[–] knova 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is just wild ignorance or revisionist history. Turning Point USA had professor watchlists where students could report professors with “leftist” views and then TP’s supporters could send the professors death threats https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/sep/17/turning-point-usa-professor-watchlist

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

TIL

My stance is with regard to his debates being far more in good faith than the likes of Shapiro, Peterson, or any other alleged 1st amendment defending debaters.

I do not support most any of his stances but the right to open public discourse.

But if there's evidence to the contrary im not here to defend it. Just stating my experience with his brand/id

[–] Traister101@lemmy.today 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And that stance is silly, the whole point of his debates is so they can get edited into misleading "best ofs" and the like. It's the same shit Shapiro and Peterson do

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Correct. They do not happen at all without free speech. That is my point which you've clearly missed.