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It is illegal and immoral. It steals the rightful intellectual property of directors and developers who are only trying to make a living. If you want to be a thief so badly, then rob a federal bank.

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[–] lemann@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

People pirate for different reasons, and the legal definition of it changes nothing really. There's...

  • People who will absolutely not ever pay for anything
  • People who will pay as long as they get their money's worth, who may also be open to supporting the creator directly (Patreon, Nebula, Bandcamp, Floatplane, Liberapay etc.)
  • Preserving content in a usable format (e.g. vinyl record plastic breaking down, old 8track players becoming uneconomical to repair and rare to find, playstation magazine CDs that will never be available online despite being susceptible to CD rot)

I'm in the last two camps personally. I wanted to also share my opinions on the points you mentioned directly...

It is illegal and immoral

I think It is illegal and immoral to sell consumers a license to use a product, under the guise of them owning it without explicitly and clearly stating such at the point of purchase, i.e. consumer electronics where you may "own" the device but only have a license to use the operating system, digital game purchases on consoles which can be revoked at any time by Sony/Microsoft or the publisher, services like Amazon Prime Video where a digital box set you purchased (that can only be watched via Amazon's website) can be deleted by Amazon at any time, leaving you no recourse.

It steals the rightful intellectual property of directors

In my opinion, it should not be right for directors at the likes of UMG to profit from music made by artists who have died.

and developers who are only trying to make a living

The developers do not make anywhere near as much money as they should for their efforts, and quite frankly they are going to get paid regardless of whether you as an individual decide to purchase or pass on a product.

If you want to be a thief so badly, then rob a federal bank.

IMO the people in the first camp probably aren't interested in money if they have chosen not to purchase their media to begin with


I'm curious as to the reason behind the post though, has someone pirated your content before?

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for an actual intellectual rebuttal. This may actually make me reconsider the morality aspect, but it is still outside of my moral bounds and therefore I can never condone it.

This started because of a post that I saw about a big piracy community being shut down.

[–] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Defederated from another popular instance, not shut down.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy is still there, just not viewable through your instance where your account is.

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