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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I would also like a peaceful national divorce. Those of us who prefer intellectualism and advancement get one half, and the knuckledragging neanderthals whose only accomplishment in life is being born white get the other half

[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And then our states can finally stop paying for their states to drag us back to the dark ages.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That money can go towards funding migration for whoever wants to move to the other half

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

One half can stand just fine. It has the economy and progressive politics to do so.

The other half can rot and die. It only serves as a ball and chain.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't really call it standing right now

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Two separate united houses can stand, though.

Well, one of them can. Based on how their economies seem to do, the other one's going to be in trouble pretty quickly.

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

how quickly will BRICS snuggle up to the greater Texas petro state? What is their next move? Mutual defense pact? Plus with aligned states cutting the two coasts apart up through Idaho, there are really two seperate 'liberal' nations, not one. Oh, and California has the largest population of republicans outside of Texas so, not a lot of support. The US would be carved up and devoured in 2-3 years. It would no longer be a world player. That is already clearly the goal and it is working. I dont know why people want to accelerate this rather than attempt to reverse it.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I'm Canadian, and America has been threatening my country's sovereignty lately. I'd rather they just go back to being relatively sane again but if that's not in the cards then splitting America up into more manageable pieces is an adequate fallback I suppose.

Those pieces wouldn't be superpowers. They'd just be regular countries like everyone else. Is that so terrible?

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think you would be surprised how bad the neighborhood would get with the US broken up into waring factions.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

I'm surprised how bad the neighborhood is with America being one big piece. I think chunking it up would make things better for us in the long run, especially considering that the relatively "saner" chunks would act as somewhat of a buffer between us and the total froot-loops down south.

As I said, there are other solutions I'd rather see happen. But if the US is going to stay as it is now then by all means break it up, that's better than having it be one giant hostile nation.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe that would be the best way out of this for the rest of the world though

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You really think so? I know 'america bad' and all, but the US did do a lot of good in the world as well. I think it is evidenced by all the harm the Trump administration is doing by illegally decimating congressional approved programs abroad.

Lets face it, if the US falls, the EU is going to be scared shitless, it will be largely ineffective in the global arena. That leaves china and Russia to swing their hammers on anything they want, and they want a lot. They need a lot.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think that the USA is lost already. Yeah it is big but only being able to trust it 4 years at a time, makes it a very unstable allied.

The world needs trust and stability and I think that the USA has shown that the world can't expect that of it. This is not about Trump. Its about the country as a whole, its population and the power that corporations and politicians have acquired

[–] GorGor@startrek.website 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

We had many years of continuity, just like any other normal nation who has free elections and policy shifts. We are in a new paradigm now. I agree the shift really started with Citizens United and the corporate grab for power (politicians are just owned by the corpos). That can be reversed but it is not going to be easy. Falling into sects just cedes power to the corpo masters.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago

This paradigm has been building for a long time. Bush II was a quarter century ago now and he was already sending the US off to invade countries arbitrarily to seize their resources back then.

I don't think the US is going to pull back from this paradigm quickly. It's a generational process at best. So as an outsider who is under threat from the US I'm fine with quicker solutions to diminishing their power if that's what it comes to.