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[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

👏 SCIENCE 👏 FICTION👏 DOES👏 NOT👏 INCLUDE👏 FANTASY👏

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

believes in rigid categories - right

[–] shapesandstuff@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Define fantasy. Soft scifi just has more fi than sci and can totally go into the realm of fantasy

Concur and I have no issue with the crossover itself in stories. Fantasy is largely predicated on magic systems and creatures. Science fiction begins with known science. Maybe I should have been more specific and said "hard science fiction." Some of my favorite stories contain elements of both, but sometimes I want hard science like Rendezvous with Rama, Red Mars, or Tau Zero. It can be frustrating to look through aisles or catalogs for hard science fiction and find mostly stories of magic. It's a mood

But then again, as Clarke said, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a magic crystal, it contains many secrets. At my and only my touch, it will reveal its bounty.

This crystal fits in my pocket but also contains the world. Upon uttering the correct incantation, my crystal will allow me to speak to those far across the realm.

But I must be cautious, pondering my crystal for too long can be addictive and one must exercise restraint, lest nothing else is done beyond contemplation of the depths of the world.

SciFi is just a matter of perspective; to a medieval king my cellphone is a magic crystal. The ability to travel significantly faster than a horse; would have seemed like magic; imagine the talk of great power; if rather than the weeks of travel between London and Edinburgh in the 1700's you had a personal air craft able to do it in a few hours.

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

But you've identified the differentiating factor. In Fantasy, the hand-waving is mystical. In Sci-Fi, the hand-waving is technical. If ya mix the two, you get Shadowrun, or Star Wars before the midichlorians.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Building on this, Star Wars is fantasy