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[–] s@piefed.world 64 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You’re using one flavor of bigotry to disparage another flavor of bigots?

[–] FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Too many people like this unfortunately. I respect the ones who learn when pointed out and stop. The ones who double down are the worst.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On one hand, yeah, not cool.

On the other, it's the kind of shot that just might land in the fanbase of these wankstains. It attacks and smears them in terms their supporters understand. Just pointing out the hypocrisy doesn't work if the audience doesn't care for reasonable argument, but by speaking their language, there's some chance it will get under their skin.

It's a disgusting move in a disgusting fight. There are no winners here, and the best I can hope for is that it'll hit the right people harder than the collateral damage hits the wrong ones.

[–] orioler25@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Dude, Nazis aren't going to be convinced to stop being a Nazi just because you also start acting like a Nazi. That's actually one of their objectives.

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why is insulting and getting under their skin so important? Is trolling them gonna change their mind? Are minorities literally less important than trying to make fascists feel insulted?

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not, it's not and they're not.

On a strategic level, there may be some merit to the hope of splitting them and turning them against each other. Their ideology builds on appearance of strength and masculinity, and any political movement hinges on unity. Getting under their skin about their prominent figures might weaken their support.

There is also a slim chance that pointing out the nonsense might break someone out of their cognitive dissonance (like it did with me), but I'll concede it's very slim indeed.

Even with all this, the question "how much collateral damage is it worth?" is a tough one. I would hope that them wasting their time and energy on each other might spare others some of their wrath, but it's impossible to measure and hard to gauge the net effect on hurt dealt to the undeserving.

So no, just the insult wouldn't be worth it. The potential strategic effects turn it into a weapon, but just like with physical weapons, it would be better if it never saw use. The ends may offset some of the hurt, but we shouldn't think of it in terms of justification so much as mitigation.

And the last line is just superfluous, hurtful without any redeeming quality at all. Fuck that shit.

Oh i was talking about the last line only. Which is also the title of the post