Been following the developments on the shooting of Charlie Kirk quite intensively from Europe these past few days. This whole thing stinks. Investigators had no idea who the shooter was, then BOOM, all of a sudden they do? Tyler Robinson goes home, tells his dad (who is former law enforcement) and he then tells a family friend???? This stinks. if the father is a former cop or whatever, he would either go full out and snitch his son to the people searching for him, or take it with him to his grave. Makes no sense, I don't buy it. Trump knew about the shooting before any media, that was on-site, reported about it? Fishy.
I dunno man, maybe its just my extreme distrust in the US but with all the radical shit that's been happening over there since Trump's reelection, I think nothing is too wild to not be considered. The american right needed someone of significance to get popped so they could use their image for martyrdom to push their ideals.
On a person note (yes, this is going to get me down voted to shit): I'm quite appalled at the sadism and joy that many people on Lemmy are taking to the killing of Kirk. I'm not getting into his politics. Yes, he was radical, i disagreed with his messaging and values and he was a piece of shit. But from a humanitarian perspective, way too many people here are making fucked up memes about the death of a young man with two young kids and a wife. You don't have to like him, you can even hate him, but leave the guy some dignity ffs. Maybe Lemmy isn't the platform of intellectuals I thought it was. This will probably be my last post. Americans are fucking insane.
I will give you, my comment "a good fasct is a dead fascist" is hate speech. I think for this comment I should be fined for my hate speech. If I was an influencer spouting hate speech on the regular, there should be financial repercussions and if not stopped they should loose their platform. You're spouting freedom at all costs. Do you honestly feel its ok for the president or an influencer to say racist, sexist and xenophobic, anti LGBTQ rhetoric without repercussions just because "freedom"?
Yes, once we start to arbitrate what can and cannot be said whoever controls the central authority on acceptable speech will have too much power and over time the incentives will push them to take more control.
The cost of being able to speak truth to power is that some people also get to say stupid things too.
But let's get back to the point of this discussion, that speech should be met with violence. If that's commonly accepted, the categories of what deserves violence shifts over time. The only good fascist is dead fascist. All Nazis are fascist. You have to at least punch Nazis right?........ And remember people call their enemies Nazis.. so eventually you end up the people who think all meat eaters are nazis feeling justified using violence when someone talks about eating meat.
Would your average rational person do that? No of course not. But if we're telling everybody violence is the appropriate response to speech, there's going to be a couple wackadoodles who take that message too far. I don't think our culture should be condoning violence for speech. That's just inappropriate. It's irresponsible. It's evil. Quite frankly