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Oh, a neo-nazi again? Huh, when will the radical left stop doing this?
I've had people legit try to pull the "NaZiS wErE aChUaLlY sOcIaLiSt" on me before
Yes ... the national socialist party were socialists. They implemented a great deal of social welfare programs and seized the means to production in various industries during their reign. They were very vocal about being anti-capitalist and anti-communist, both of which they viewed as Jewish systems and sought a third way that was clearly a spin off of socialism. This has been well documented from various speeches, articles, and books that were produced by the Nazis at the time; and, most importantly, their actions. Hitler was even in a Russian backed communist group at one point.
The easiest way to think of the Nazi ideology is to take communism, drop the class warfare and insert racial warfare and ethno supremacy(and add in a bunch of ancient Norse, German, and Greek/Roman mythology).
Where did you get the impression that they weren't socialists?
Nazis did not have an ideology. They were a grievance movement that utilized a common folk scapegoat (Jewish and Roma migrants) to unify the fractured German political landscape in the Weimar Republic era.
It was a populist demogogue movement that cynically and callously used terminology that was common and popular among poor working class people in order to trick them into believing that their movement was about anything other than hatred, extermination, and pilfering public coffers. The 'Socialist' part of their name was a cynical play to attract those who were active in Communist organizing in the early 1900s.
There was no collective ownership in Nazi Germany. The government owned much of everything, and the only parties that benefited from that ownership were the individual cronies that Hitler personally feted. Nazi Germany was socialist in the way that Vladimir Putin's Russian Federation is a Communist state — IN NAME ONLY.
I don't know a lot about Putin or his claims. Does he go around stating that modern day Russia is communist?
I would disagree whole heatedly that the Nazis didn't have an ideology and of course it was a grievance movement. Every political movement is a grievance movement. The ideology got laid out cleanly In 1925's Mein Kampf. I've heard the 'in name only' argument 100 times. It just doesn't make sense though.
The Nazis railed against capatism for destroying the German economy, they created large scale public works programs, created the "Strength Through Joy" (KdF) program for state provided vacations and leisure activities, created the "National Labor Service" (RAD) for state run labor, nationalized the labor unions, price and wage controls, rent controls, etc etc etc
Perhaps we have different definitions for what socialism is, but this sure seems like a lot of the Nazi state seizing the means of production to me.