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Is proton safe?
https://www.pcmag.com/news/encrypted-messaging-service-proton-mail-disabled-two-journalists-accounts
Sounds reasonable to me? It's not a good look but it sounds like they quickly re-instated the closed accounts. The article title is misleading.
This does feel like a random lash out after this story, the reports of the CEO earlier this year and the reports that they were going to move out of Switzerland.
Let's just randomly punch down at something the vast majority of our users wouldn't trust already?
I'd understand writing something like this if they were about to launch their own messenger product. But even then, this article doesn't offer anything new.
Both being unsafe seems the most probably state of things.
Still, something unsafe can still be safer than every other option ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why choose if there are other solutions ~~(like tuta)~~ that use open standards
Tuta also locks you down with their lack of IMAP support. You can only use their client. At least Proton has a bridge and allows you to use your own GPG key.
I thought proton was the only one with a lack of imap, thanks for the info
Proton does PGP for you. There are countless standards compliant mail services where you could use your own email client and do your own PGP -Thunderbird is probably the easiest but It’s a trade-off.
What open standard (that are not used by proton too)? If anything proton uses GPG while tuta uses a custom system (which is why they also encrypt the subject).
That doesn't make WhatsApp safe. Proton having it's own issues does not invalidate what they're sharing about WhatsApp concerns.
I agree, they’re both questionable, the absurd thing is that nobody is talking about the safer alternatives
Even their CEO did not practice safe sex when he sucked the dick of Trump without a condom.