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What really must be done is to bring forward serious discussion and not debate through memes
It's been done, got nowhere
Do you see how poorly our conversation is set up right now? We are talking below a meme hinting at something and not really bringing up any discussion
I don't disagree with you. This is a terrible method to conduct political discourse. But of all the times I have discussed things with right wingers, I have only ever left the conversation stupider, and more angry. They simply don't listen.
Right wingers are fundamentally motivated by a firm belief that they are innately superior to everyone else. People of other races, religions, genders, sexual minorities, etc. are beneath them. This is all they really believe; the rest is just sophistry.
I'm not really hinting at anything, peaceful discourse has been attempted again and again with the right, they literally don't care and won't listen. It doesn't go anywhere.
before a peaceful or violent discourse you need a discourse to begin with and a meme is a really poor way to start a serious discourse.
I'm clearly speaking of outside this meme, I thought that was obvious
Of course rational argument should be the starting point, and if you kept up, there have been and still are plenty of efforts to discuss. But, in the words of Karl Popper, who watched fascism overwhelm all reason:
That's where we're at now: When the intolerant refuse to play by the same rules of rational argumentation, no rational argument can hope to change their mind.
In a serious thread perhaps you wouldn't limit yourself to a quote but we are talking below a meme
I've had plenty of serious discussion threads before. Those are a thing. Even then, I don't think I'd need to expand much more on the words better smiths have crafted. I'm but the student who learns what those have to say that actually did live through a rise of fascism and have the benefit of hindsight to comment on it. What could I possibly add to that observation?
Or is the point of your argument that we shouldn't create and enjoy humorous images about serious topics? Satire has always worked by appealing to humour in order to catch people's attention and draw it to the object of mockery. Making memes is a way to spread opinions by using something pleasant to carry them to the minds of people. And wouldn't you know it, the alt-right does it too, and quite effectively. Why should we abstain?
We can have both, and either can spark the other. We can have serious discussions below memes, if you want to have serious discussions. We can make light under a well-thought-out analysis. That barrier is in your mind alone. Consider this an explicit invitation, if you need onr: Debate me, contest my points, let us both become wiser by putting our logic to the test.
I love how you frame this as being binary. No time for memes, Captain! We must ride at dawn!
You see, memes are destroying the fabric of our reason and debate. It's time to stop laughing and start thinking
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
Or we just make plans to start beating fascists to death in the streets