Been following the developments on the shooting of Charlie Kirk quite intensively from Europe these past few days. This whole thing stinks. Investigators had no idea who the shooter was, then BOOM, all of a sudden they do? Tyler Robinson goes home, tells his dad (who is former law enforcement) and he then tells a family friend???? This stinks. if the father is a former cop or whatever, he would either go full out and snitch his son to the people searching for him, or take it with him to his grave. Makes no sense, I don't buy it. Trump knew about the shooting before any media, that was on-site, reported about it? Fishy.
I dunno man, maybe its just my extreme distrust in the US but with all the radical shit that's been happening over there since Trump's reelection, I think nothing is too wild to not be considered. The american right needed someone of significance to get popped so they could use their image for martyrdom to push their ideals.
On a person note (yes, this is going to get me down voted to shit): I'm quite appalled at the sadism and joy that many people on Lemmy are taking to the killing of Kirk. I'm not getting into his politics. Yes, he was radical, i disagreed with his messaging and values and he was a piece of shit. But from a humanitarian perspective, way too many people here are making fucked up memes about the death of a young man with two young kids and a wife. You don't have to like him, you can even hate him, but leave the guy some dignity ffs. Maybe Lemmy isn't the platform of intellectuals I thought it was. This will probably be my last post. Americans are fucking insane.
I agree with the last part. I find it depressing to see people celebrate the murder of someone just because they disagree with their politics. Any principled person should be able to condemn this kind of violence, even if in this particular case it happens to align with their worldview. Nobody wants to live in a world where due process is replaced with vigilante justice. It’s naive to think it won’t eventually come back around and bite them in the ass. People with the truth on their side don’t need violence to silence opposition.
I think the left's faith in an honest system without violence in politics is thoroughly rocked, given the past 10 years in American politics. They see grifters at the top get away with stuff that was considered unthinkable 20 years ago, all while watching ICE and some police departments inflict brutality on citizens and non-citizens alike. It feels like their entire identity and morality rooted in equality and empathy is being systematically erased or eradicated. So, while I don't agree with it, I do understand the knee-jerk reaction, especially in a situation so thoroughly drenched in irony as Charlie Kirk's.
I'm not thrilled that it came to the point that someone had to get shot to make the world a better place. I would have preferred it if Kirk changed his tune or just disappeared into the nothing. Instead, he continued to spread hateful rhetoric that has directly lead to others getting hurt or having their freedoms taken away. The world was immediately a better place the moment that bullet hit. I have empathy for those close to and that loved Kirk and are mourning his loss, but that's met with the cautious optimism I have that those two kids have a chance at a better future.
Not you specifically, but this is pretty much the exact thing that I've seen non Americans calling for for months. Calls for why are Americans aren't doing something about our Trump problem. Now when someone pulls the trigger and a domino falls, people around the world are clutching their pearls.
I'm not calling for violent action, but I'm also not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. When life gives you fascists, you make fertilizer.
If you could go back in time or have someone else do it and kill young adult Hitler, would you do it or condone that action?