Been following the developments on the shooting of Charlie Kirk quite intensively from Europe these past few days. This whole thing stinks. Investigators had no idea who the shooter was, then BOOM, all of a sudden they do? Tyler Robinson goes home, tells his dad (who is former law enforcement) and he then tells a family friend???? This stinks. if the father is a former cop or whatever, he would either go full out and snitch his son to the people searching for him, or take it with him to his grave. Makes no sense, I don't buy it. Trump knew about the shooting before any media, that was on-site, reported about it? Fishy.
I dunno man, maybe its just my extreme distrust in the US but with all the radical shit that's been happening over there since Trump's reelection, I think nothing is too wild to not be considered. The american right needed someone of significance to get popped so they could use their image for martyrdom to push their ideals.
On a person note (yes, this is going to get me down voted to shit): I'm quite appalled at the sadism and joy that many people on Lemmy are taking to the killing of Kirk. I'm not getting into his politics. Yes, he was radical, i disagreed with his messaging and values and he was a piece of shit. But from a humanitarian perspective, way too many people here are making fucked up memes about the death of a young man with two young kids and a wife. You don't have to like him, you can even hate him, but leave the guy some dignity ffs. Maybe Lemmy isn't the platform of intellectuals I thought it was. This will probably be my last post. Americans are fucking insane.
C'mon now. If the powers that be had synthesized a scapegoat to take the fall, s/he would have - somehow - been a gay Mexican Jewish NEET FTM transsexual communist and a member of at least three street gangs and two cartels, not to mention a long time supporter of the Democratic party, complete with fan posters of Biden and Harris plastered on the wall, right above the neat typewritten and signed manifesto.
I fully agree with this and don't dispute it, but when you look at all the media that came out from the republicans within the first 48 after the shooting, hell even trump's speech, was about "the radical left". even if the reality is different now, that thought is already engrained in the psyche of the right and I almost guarantee that even after the realization that Tyler is even more radical than kirk, the tabloids will continue to read "radical left", even though everyone knows its bullshit. because its what everyone except for the dems want to hear.
Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that. It's a tiresomely well-established MO at this point.
Which option would have led to further radicalization, the one you outlined or the current one?
The pattern at play is that group A is always preoccupied with group B among themselves. "Look what they did again!" "Only the other group would do that!" etc.
Hate grabs the attention. Not having inter-group communication anymore, lets people conjure up the worst version of the other side.
Hate it or like CK, he tried to have a left-right dialogue. Which of course upset radicalized people and people who's goal is radicalization. Point is case, his shooter didn't find him radical enough.
Hate makes people blind to solutions. Lemmy is a mostly left-leaning platform I presume, yet all I see is what the US right does in the flood of political posts. Turn the discussion back from constant finger pointing!
All right, but are you sure you're arguing this with the right person?
How could I be sure? I have little to no basis who you are. I'm merely sharing my thoughts that this post and your comment has evoked.
Oh. Since you replied to me instead of making a new root-level comment, I rather assumed your comment was meant as a response to the content of mine.
Fair enough, I guess.