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It's so fucking hard for me to even begin to disagree with you. I want to feel empathy for this human being but for fuck's sake... you can feel the irony and hypocrisy...
he thought empathy was fake, don't give him any lmaooo
but I believe in empathy. since when do i let people like charlie kirk tell me what to feel and think? fuckin never is when.
Years of bad faith argument by professional high school bullies does that. Years of spreading hate and intolerance to their "others", but shock and horror whenever someone didn't tolerate them. Years of snide comments or glee whenever there was an attack on someone they didn't like.
I really didn't care when Paul Pelosi was attacked because people like him don't care or even notice when someone me gets attacked. Why should I care at that Kirk was attacked?
People are saying that this attack with spark more violence, but it didn't really matter that Franz Ferdinand was shot. WWI was going to happen some way or another. Whatever happens next was going to happen one way or another.
I agree on a lot of particulars there, but I feel compelled to quibble on behalf of historical contingency. We are separated from the past by an infinity of momentary possibilities, and just as people in the past did not know what was going to happen, we can never know what possibilities did not come to fruition. It seems impossible that there was ever such a thing as a foregone conclusion in light of the sheer amount of things that are left to chance every single day. Any historian worth the time of day will tell you that their subject is a litany of unintended consequences, and I am happier knowing that no fate is preordained, especially not war.
I see what you're saying about possibilities, but there are definitely patterns to history. Historians will be the first to say that "history rhymes." The pattern of events that we've been seeing unfold over the past few years has occurred countless times before, and surprise surprise, it's never ended peacefully.
As much as I wish that we, as a society, could have learned enough from the past not to keep falling into the same routines, I see no evidence that we've matured that far as a species yet. If the building of tensions has led to violent breaks over and over again throughout history, what makes "now" so special as to be immune from the same fate?
Feel empathy for the fact that people like Charlie, other white supremacists, have something so fundamental missing in their souls they treat other people so poorly. Feel empathy for the fact he was a piss poor human and didn't understand love, respect, community, humanity, etc.
I like treating it like a game. Think of rabid far right radicals as people under the influence of a cognitohazard. You can't really help them, and if you listen to them for too long, you'll pick up the cognitive hazard as well. Like a cold. Only thing to do is quarantine and isolate the infected until they can be humanely put to rest. It's IRL SCPs
Its not about empathy. Its one thing to be indifferent. I am indifferent. I didnt like him, I thought his way of debating was disingenuous. Not giving a shit that he died, is where everyone should be who didnt like him. This glee, this joy, this is not normal. This is sign that a lot of people have been radicalised by their echo chambers.
And worse, now they are calling for others to be murdered. People like JK Rowling. Theres fucking crimes being committed everywhere, all under the guise of "they are nazis!". The exact same shit Putin said to justify his attack on Ukraine. Theres just something so wrong in peoples heads now. Social media has fucked a lot of people brains.