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Not even justifying his death - conservatives will whine about anyone who correctly points out the fact that neither a bulletproof vest, security, nor a good guy with a gun would have saved Charlie Kirk. But he might still be alive if 1) The U.S. had sensible gun regulations, and 2) If the right hadn't been ridiculing the very idea of empathy and celebrating every murder of their political opponents over the past 10 years.

Right-wing politics and its consequences killed Charlie Kirk.


And as the right continues to bemoan left-wing violence, it's important to remember that political violence is very much a right-wing issue: https://youtu.be/B2MB2re24oA?t=962

~~Sorry about the shitty AI audio, I was trying something new hoping that it would make the whole video-making process easier and it didn't work out at all. If you set the speed to 1.25 it'll sound a bit more reasonable.~~

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[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space -4 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'm trying, man. I'm looking deep in my soul but I really can't be fucked about a stock market mogul. obviously though this seems to just be me so I need to self examine. in the meantime perhaps this is a great opportunity for C-Dawg and the Pelosi's to put aside their differences and consider how to change their perspective grifts to result in less grievous injuries together.

[–] yimyam@piefed.social 31 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I don't think it's about whether or not Paul Pelosi is a good person or not, just about pointing out the clear and deliberate inconsistency of the right when it comes to violence

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The issue is believing that the right has ideals.

The only ideal the right knows is egotism. What benefits me (or what I think benefits me) is good, what benefits others is bad.

All the other "ideals" they might throw around to support their point is just a smoke screen with the purpose of trying to make it look like there's other justifications for their actions apart from "I'm an egotistical asshole who can't manage to view other people as human beings".

[–] yimyam@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I agree completely. Principles, consistency, etc aren't important to them. I wonder if they are even conscious of that. When they use something like this shooting as overwhelming evidence of "leftist violence" or whatever, ignoring decades of basically exclusively right-wing political violence, I can't tell if they are just acting in bad faith or if they are actually incapable of seeing their total disconnect from the facts of the world. Both are scary but the former less so...I can wrap my head around that a bit more easily.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

It's totally bad faith, nothing else.

I've seen a lot of conservative news articles about how the killing of an asshole youtuber marks a break from civilized non-violent politics and stuff, completely ignoring that just a few months ago this happened: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/us/politics/hortman-hoffman-shot-minnesota.html

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