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Of course they did it for attention. I'm not saying this about the Trump shooter. I'm saying this about someone who targeted not an oligarch, not Trump himself or anyone with actual concrete power. But a guy whose job was to speak in front of crowds. The crowd and the spectacle was the point. Nothing is to be gained by removing Charlie Kirk from existence. His damage is already done, and this just makes that worse by giving him free sympathy and attention.
Whoever did this clearly didn't care that they were harming the left and helping the far right, at least they didn't care more about that than getting attention for themselves.
This whole time we've been wondering how Trump will distract from Epstein, then someone does it for him. If this is a leftist, it's the dumbest fucking leftist ever.
Do you suppose that "concrete power" was obtained spontaneously? Kirk and his ilk paved the way for what we have now. He was one cog in a directed system of influence to instate fascism.
Even if the shooter targeted Mango Mussolini and succeeded, do you think that American fascism would vanish? No, because again it's a system of influence that led to this point. A long, slow erosion of the social fabric brought on by bad-faith arguments, lies, and wanton disregard for the welfare of others - even jovial disregard for others.
This system of influence has told people that empathy is a weakness - the dead guy even said as much. I tend to disagree with that sentiment, but now we're in "paradox of tolerance" territory.
I'll take whatever win against fascism that comes. You speak of the shooter possibly being "the dumbest leftist" - I guess they should have consulted first? Like what national plan is there for any left movement in the US? If you mean "left" as in Democrat - there is no plan, just wait it out and keep sucking the corpo cock. If you mean "left" as in Anarchist, Socialist, etc. then there's also no plan because Americans as a whole have made it clear that they love the boot, love consumerism, and hate change. So what imaginary grand strategy are you picturing?
I mean look at literally anything that actually has worked. Civil disobedience, documenting and publicizing fascist abuses, and yes IF you have the military advantage AND everything else has failed, fight violently - but targeting the leaders, not some clown who's exploiting fascism for personal gain.
Look at what just happened in DC. There's lots to criticize there, but nonviolence still worked. The takeover was an embarrassing fiasco and it's expiring right now. Done. And the most violence used was throwing a sandwich.
No lone assassin has ever defeated fascism. Certainly not one who isn't even targeting an actual leader.
Yeah, those actions had a significantly larger impact, but don't forget the contribution to stalling escalation some groups like the Black Panthers achieved. Nonviolence often beats out violence, but it won't deter everyone.🩷
You can’t say they did it for attention otherwise they would be like yeah it was me bro, and what.
Although, I am in agreement that if this is someone on the left it does hurt us. With Luigi and Brian it was different both sides hate the healthcare racket but this just makes us look bad.
That said though maybe just kill all the people we don’t agree with, morally, then it doesn’t matter. I’ve been as mad as I assume this guy is but don’t have the whatever it takes to do this, but I like to think if I was killing someone for my moral beliefs I would own that shit and surrender at the scene and take my day in court to be like yeah I did that and I did that for the greater good.