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I’m sorry for his death. I disagreed with most of his points, I’m not event from the USA, but I hate seeing people celebrating the assassination of someone. What a fucked up world.
He gets the same sympathy from me that he gave to other shooting victims, trans people and immigrants.
Poor hitler, right? jfc.
As much as I disagreed with him, I don’t remember Kirk killing millions, building concentration camps, starving people to death.
He wanted to eradicate transgender people from society and actively worked with the party currently performing an ethnic cleansing of the US. I'd say these are Nazi dogwishtles but honestly it's pretty fucking mask off. One does not need to heil Hitler to be one.
Don't pretend he wouldn't have gleefully participated in that. He was an ardent trump supporter, and thus an ardent supporter of concentration camps.
Hitler might've killed someone in WW1. Irregardless, Hitler had a whole big group of Charlie Kirks that helped convince millions of Germans to commit atrocoties. Hitler would've been nothing without his Charlie Kirks.
Would you be sorry if Putin were killed like this?
What about Mussolini?
Whataboutism. As much as I disagreed with him, I don’t remember Kirk being a dictator, invading countries, killing his opponents, etc. Remember the last time Mussolini and Putin were debating with public in « prove me wrong » mode ? No. Because it did not happen.
Thats.... not really what whataboutism is.
I'm not celebrating. I just have no remorse.
I'm also not from the US. youre right we're living in fucked up times.
At first, I was kind of sickened by the rhetoric in these threads too.
The thing is, US legislative, executive, judiciary, and even the media, are all corrupt. There is no truth and no justice.
This guy was profiting by engaging in a culture war, and manipulating anyone he could into signing up. He was recruiting people to an ideology intent on persecuting minorities.
There are people celebrating in these threads, and it is sickening. However, I do believe that he deserved to die, and his death is much less sickening than the atrocities performed by the conservatives every day. If it were a time of war, we would've taken one of their generals. We are all lessened by it, but the world is undoubtedly better for it.
One characteristic of fascism is the forcible suppression of opposition. By your statement which mentions that someone can « deserve to die » because of his political view opposed to your, in my opinion you’re more fascist than him. Or maybe I misunderstood you.
So far I saw videos of him debating, asking to be proven wrong. I don’t remember any quote of him saying something so violent as « someone deserve to die because xxx ». Knowing that trump got elected with less votes than during his 1st term, in the end one might argue that Kirk did a poor job.
That's not what I said at all though, is it.
Conservatives don't deserve to die, disingenuous manipulator recruiting young adults to fascism do.
If all you see is someone debating asking to be proven wrong then you're a naive idiot.
After your comment, I documented myself on the techniques behind his debate techniques, watched multiple videos, found this one being the most educational : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9O7y50cNb7c&pp=ugUHEgVlbi1HQg%3D%3D
You were right. There is no way to prove him wrong with all those techniques. However, I still do not think he deserved to die.
That's fine, but I think you can probably understand why other commenters do feel that way, given his profiting from hatred and the deaths of others.
You would shed a tear for a nazi who got killed? Super weird.