this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2025
1177 points (99.4% liked)
News
32141 readers
5508 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I get the strong feeling that this shooting was done by a professional.
Makes me wonder a few things
Shooting is a skill you can learn, improve, and build expertise in. You don't need military or agency training, just a place to practice and maybe an instructor. Next, it's hard to locate a single shot, especially when unexpected. There would be echos and conflicting reports from observers under duress.
Occams razor is the shooter was a practiced with good aim, good optics, and a good escape plan(so far). That much has zero requirement for outside assistance.
The United Healthcare shooting was way dirtier in terms of evidence, skill, and plan. It still took them days to find the suspect they wanted to prosecute and that after other suspects were released. They will do a similar manhunt here.
I think its pretty unlikely that some rando did this, but who knows. The skill level to get this shot off with such accuracy though and the ability to escape without a decent picture being taken of the shooter by a security camera or something shows an immense amount of planning. I think to escape like this would require help, it would require mapping out an escape plan so you know where the cameras are. I think its very unlikely that some lone wolf would be able to pull all this off.
Charlie had a big head. If you miss that then the only thing left to hit is the neck. Again, being accurate with a gun is about training. There's no technology that some grand secret agency could provide that makes you a better marksman. Good condition hardware, Optics, calibration, skill and practice. If you're going to make a shot that's all you need. There's no special sauce there.
Security cameras are patchy at best, often not even working, and you would need to know what property the shot was from to find the footage. Even then, you would need to identify someone by them being a stranger in a workplace or their behavior/dress being abnormal.
I'm not saying there's no conspiracy here but it's really just as likely this is a "rando" until real evidence is identified. Claiming that there is a conspiracy based on vibes is unhelpful and potentially harmful. We really don't want to culture the blueanon types.
Finally, this admin simply doesn't need a false flag to do what they want. They're just going to do it either way.
I know nothing about guns or shooting but I am seeing people who do know say that any experienced hunter could make the shot.
As a counter-example, the Trump assassination attempt was similar location but and distance but failed.
Yeah but the kid has been discovered before he could make the shot so he was under a lot more pressure than the kirk shooter