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[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I get the strong feeling that this shooting was done by a professional.

  • 1 single shot from over two hundred yards away
  • shooter escapes like a ghost, and it doesn't seem like the police have found any evidence he was even there.
  • a separate person seemingly providing a distraction so the shooter can get away and the police just let him go.

Makes me wonder a few things

  • was this a false flag? (seems most likely) - especially when you consider the context of trump wanting to send military into US cities and the Republicans voting against releasing the epstein docs on the same day. This shooting was an absolutely fantastic distraction and could easily be used by trump to promote his usage of military against US cities.
  • was this sponsored by someone
  • was this another country?
  • if the shooter escaped so easily, how likely is it that he does this again somewhere else?
[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Shooting is a skill you can learn, improve, and build expertise in. You don't need military or agency training, just a place to practice and maybe an instructor. Next, it's hard to locate a single shot, especially when unexpected. There would be echos and conflicting reports from observers under duress.

Occams razor is the shooter was a practiced with good aim, good optics, and a good escape plan(so far). That much has zero requirement for outside assistance.

The United Healthcare shooting was way dirtier in terms of evidence, skill, and plan. It still took them days to find the suspect they wanted to prosecute and that after other suspects were released. They will do a similar manhunt here.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I think its pretty unlikely that some rando did this, but who knows. The skill level to get this shot off with such accuracy though and the ability to escape without a decent picture being taken of the shooter by a security camera or something shows an immense amount of planning. I think to escape like this would require help, it would require mapping out an escape plan so you know where the cameras are. I think its very unlikely that some lone wolf would be able to pull all this off.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Charlie had a big head. If you miss that then the only thing left to hit is the neck. Again, being accurate with a gun is about training. There's no technology that some grand secret agency could provide that makes you a better marksman. Good condition hardware, Optics, calibration, skill and practice. If you're going to make a shot that's all you need. There's no special sauce there.

Security cameras are patchy at best, often not even working, and you would need to know what property the shot was from to find the footage. Even then, you would need to identify someone by them being a stranger in a workplace or their behavior/dress being abnormal.

I'm not saying there's no conspiracy here but it's really just as likely this is a "rando" until real evidence is identified. Claiming that there is a conspiracy based on vibes is unhelpful and potentially harmful. We really don't want to culture the blueanon types.

Finally, this admin simply doesn't need a false flag to do what they want. They're just going to do it either way.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I know nothing about guns or shooting but I am seeing people who do know say that any experienced hunter could make the shot.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a counter-example, the Trump assassination attempt was similar location but and distance but failed.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah but the kid has been discovered before he could make the shot so he was under a lot more pressure than the kirk shooter

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think its pretty unlikely that some rando did this

Why? Just has to be someone who's' good at shooting rifles. It's Utah, surrounded by people who shoot guns regularly.

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We all shoot guns regularly. This kind of accuracy isn't regular.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago

You do realize that military sharpshooters are also just regular people who train a lot, right? There's no "special sauce" that couldn't be replicated outside of the military, in a nation with far more guns than people.

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Who had info saying that it was a long distance shot?

[–] MangioneDontMiss@feddit.nl 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I have seen it mentioned in a lot of places that the shot came from the roof of the Losee building.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/11/when-and-where-charlie-kirk-was-shot-a-visual-timeline

There is also video of a man prone on the rooftop before the shooting and then someone running on the roof right after the shot.